Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2043 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2043 - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-10-04. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2043  - Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
When you have headphones on in a video game, you can hear things behind you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can hear things in front of you.
You get a sense of where they are.
That's one of the, god damn, those things are addictive.
Yeah, man, I'm a gamer.
They are so addictive.
But that's why, because it's so immersive now.
Are you into video games?
Oh my god, I have a real problem.
I can't play them.
I literally can't play them.
I can play pool, right?
Because pool, I'm addicted to that.
But pool to me is like a mind exercise.
It's like a concentration exercise as much as it is a game.
It's all about everything has to move together in perfect synchronicity.
And when I'm playing video games, I'm just absorbed in this adrenaline-fueled
chaos of graphics and sounds and explosions.
It's just way too good.
That's the problem.
You don't want to do anything else.
You just want to fucking go crazy and play video games all day.
There's this game I play, Escape from Tarkov, that I just, I shouldn't be
allowed to play it.
It's not good for my family, man.
It's just like 10 hours a day.
And before you know it, the whole day is gone.
You know, you lose sleep.
Yeah.
Wolfenstein 3D, that was the game where it just felt kind of like, the first
time I saw Wolfenstein 3D, which probably shows how old I am now.
That's the original id Software title.
Yeah.
It's like the first one that did.
You quit at the right time, man.
That's what it looked like.
That's Wolfenstein 3D.
Oh, man.
So many hours of my childhood were spent on that.
Yeah.
So I started off with Quake 1.
I had Quake 1 on a computer.
I was just playing the game itself because they had put, because I used to Mac,
and so then they put out, how about a cigar, gentlemen?
Thank you, brother.
We're like gentlemen here.
Oh, thank you, guys.
Nice one.
Enjoying some company.
But that was just, you just play the game.
And then I found out about online playing.
I was like, oh, no.
Oh, no.
What a life suck that is.
Yeah.
Do you let your kids play?
They play games.
Yeah.
But fortunately, one's really into Roblox.
What's Roblox?
Roblox.
R-O-B-O-L, or B-L-O-X.
I think that's what it is, right?
It's just like they have these little worlds they create, and they run around
with their friends in there.
It's like, it seems like fun.
You just have to limit the amount of time they do it.
And you have to explain to them, like, don't just let them figure out it's
addictive.
Explain to them that it's addictive.
Yeah.
Explain to them that there's things that you're going to want to get really
good at that won't help you.
Yes.
It's a great way of looking at it.
Because, like, I had a friend, and he was one of the guys who was one of the
managers of the comedy store.
Super awesome guy.
And he was hooked on EverQuest.
You know that game?
Remember that game?
Remember that game, Jamie?
Yeah.
There's, like, massive online multiplayer game.
You're a wizard.
You're casting spells and shit.
That kind of thing.
Mm-hmm.
And one day, I'll never forget, we were all standing around in the comedy store
bar, and he was pale, pale like paper.
Like, he hadn't been out of the house in days.
Like, he just, his eyes were sunk into his head.
He goes, I am so good at making money in the game and so bad at doing it in
real life.
Wow.
I was like, whoa.
I was like, okay, you've put all your energy into getting really good at
something that doesn't do you any good.
Unless you're going to be a professional, which they do have.
That's a hard thing to say to a kid.
Don't be, don't play video games.
Right.
If then you find out how much video game players are making.
Right.
It's like, don't start a podcast.
Exactly.
Right.
Are we dinosaurs?
We're talking shit about.
They're so good.
I'm not talking shit about games.
But what I am saying.
But you've got to control it, is what you're saying.
They're too good.
They're too good.
Your life is boring as fuck compared to those games.
Like, there's no way.
There's no way it's as exciting as playing, like, Quake 3 Arena online with,
like, a 30-inch monitor.
And you're sitting right in front of it.
And you've got fucking headphones on, explosions, and lightning guns.
It's amazing.
Because if you think about it, right, like, computer games are instant gratification.
And that's how you get success in a computer game.
But if you think about life, life, how to become successful, is basically deferred
gratification.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's another level to it, which is, in a computer game, rewards are
linear.
Yeah.
You work for a bit, you get a reward.
You work for a bit, you get a reward.
You work for a bit, but life isn't like that.
In life, you work for a bit, you get fucking kicked to shit for years sometimes,
right?
You've got to work and work and work.
And sometimes it's going to be really shitty for a long time.
And then there may be a reward, or there may not.
Sometimes the work is the reward itself, right?
So that, in some ways, it actually changes how you think about achieving things
and doing things as well.
Which is, you know, I have sometimes found that helpful because you kind of
know if you work, you get a reward.
But sometimes it can mess with your reward system as well, I think.
Well, you look at what video games do.
It encourages you to spend as much time doing them as possible.
Yeah.
The more you do them, the more whatever you're doing, you acquire.
You know, if that, that's kind of the case with real life.
Well, think about, like, stockbrokers.
Think about those kind of folks.
Folks are, you know, just in it trying to make money.
Just trying to figure out what to buy and what to sell.
And it's all, for them, it's all numbers.
So they must be, like, addicted to these numbers.
Like, they're probably super addicted to, like, seeing their bank account and
seeing their hedge funds,
seeing what do they have, like, how much, how much, I need more than that.
You know, like, you compare yourself and you read the list of the richest
people in the world.
Oh, this guy's got 200 billion.
Holy shit, I got to do better.
You know what?
How do you keep going once you got to, like, a billion?
How do you motivate yourself to, like, make more?
You've got more money than you.
Unless what you're doing is what you enjoy doing.
Yeah.
Which is where Elon falls into that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
He's making money.
But what he does is he's, I mean, it's essentially, it's all engineering stuff.
All of it.
You know, it's innovation and engineering.
You know, the boring company, they're trying to, like, drill tunnels under the
cities.
That's crazy.
The SpaceX, that's fucking insane.
You're shooting rockets into space.
You want to put people on Mars.
Electric cars, you're engineering electric cars, electric roofs.
Like, everything is, like, this new innovative product, Starlink.
Oh, let's just get high-speed internet and fucking fly it through the sky.
People keep seeing those things and thinking they're UFOs, by the way.
Do they?
Yeah.
But it's also, as well, like, if you think about, like, making money, what is
really making money?
It's the deal.
And actually, you just get addicted to the deal.
That's a good point.
It's like a form of gambling.
I'm going to try this tactic.
But no, they push back on here.
But I'm going to do this, and then I'm going to do that.
And then maybe if we try that, then this is going to happen.
And then you make the deal, and boom, you get the dopamine.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
I know some hedge fund guys who love doing it after the first billion, too.
Well, if they really enjoy that game, I guess.
I mean, I guess it's kind of like playing, you know, Magic the Gathering or
something.
I mean, it is a game.
You're playing it to win it.
Yeah.
But social media is a game.
Yes.
And it's a game a lot like video games.
Yeah.
Where it's like, you're really not getting anything out of this.
And you're probably losing a lot of your time to do it.
I suppose for people like us, we're building profile and, you know, connections.
I've met so many amazing people, actually, through social media.
For sure.
We're all on it.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
We're all on it.
But also, we're all on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And some of the people that are on it aren't even really there.
Like, there's so much interaction that's instigated.
There's so much, there's so many inflammatory accounts that I read them and I'm
like, there
is no way that's a real person.
No.
Like, this is all design.
This is all, like, there's just a certain percentage of people that are just
trying to
stir up shit in conversations all the time.
And they usually have, like, American flags in their profile.
It's like, you know, like some Trump thing in their name.
And then you go to their account.
It doesn't look real at all.
And you're like, I wonder where this is.
Is this guy in Moldova?
Like, where is he?
Yeah.
Is he in Latvia?
Like, where is this guy that's doing this?
Yeah.
There's so many people like that.
There's one guy, I'm not going to mention his name, but he lives in Asia and he's
always
commenting about America.
And I'm like, mate, should you not be commenting about your own country instead
of clipping riots
in America?
Well, he could get killed.
He's displaced protesters.
Good fucking luck tweeting bad shit about China.
If you're in China, they got that pretty locked down.
Oh, they do.
Oh, they do.
Yeah.
And there's several countries that have arrested people for tweets.
Well, we come from one of them.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
You guys do.
You do.
2018, 3,000 people, man.
3,000 people got arrested for tweeting bad things.
Not tweeting, but social media posts.
Yeah.
So between, what was the biggest one?
It had to be Facebook, right?
That's where people complain the most.
Is it?
Probably.
Yeah.
I think those are the complainiest folks.
Those are the older folks.
Yeah.
I mean, the most famous example is Count Dankula, the internet comedian where
he taught
his pug to do a Nazi salute.
But there's been lots of others examples.
You know, people, there's a tragic fire that happened in London called the Grenfell
fire.
It was awful.
People were literally burnt to death in this tower block.
And these group of people, they were idiots, basically did a representation on
bonfire night
in November the 5th in our country.
And they did a representation of people in the tower and set fire to it.
They videoed it.
They were laughing along.
Now, obviously, that's a dick move.
I think we can all agree with that.
But you don't arrest somebody for that, for basically being a dick.
Yeah.
It shouldn't be illegal to be stupid.
No.
It just, that's a, you're crossing a line because you're making a subjective
judgment.
You know, like, it's not funny to me, and it's not funny probably to a lot of
rational people.
Yeah.
But you should be able to try.
Like, the whole thing about doing something, like, a lot of times when people
do outrageous
things they think are going to be funny, they don't know.
Yeah.
And then they try it.
That's not a thing you should arrest people for because you're setting a crazy
precedent
because then it becomes subjective, like, what's outrageous and what's not.
It could move to anything.
It could move to, you know, trans identification or trans rights.
It could move to anything.
Vaccine hesitancy.
I mean, we can keep going.
Yeah.
Vaccine hesitancy, not supporting Ukraine.
There's a whole slew of things that could be stuffed into that box once you
open it.
You just can't open that box.
That box has got to be, people have to be able to, this is how we have to
conduct ourselves.
People have to be able to express themselves.
And they have to be able to use facts and reality and not get censored.
And they have to be able to do that kind of universally.
And if they can't do that, if the good ideas can't compete against the bad
ideas, then the
good ideas aren't good enough.
So we have