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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2064 - Mike Baker' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-11-16. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2064 - Mike Baker

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Hello, Mr. Baker.
And greetings to you, Mr. Rogan.
We always have to bring you in when the world's fucked.
Yeah, someday I'm going to bring you in when everything's great.
That would be, you know what, I'd look forward to that.
And we could just talk about other things, but...
You are my go-to guy when there's international conflict,
and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Yeah, I appreciate that, because we have some conflict.
That's what I hear.
God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what the fuck is going on, Mike?
Tell me the real deal.
What's happening?
Well, there's something happening in the Middle East
that's taking everybody's eye off the ball
on what's happening in Ukraine, which is amazing.
7 October happened with that incredible medieval slaughter by Hamas.
And I was amazed at how quickly, right?
I mean, I guess I know that people have attention deficit disorder,
but you didn't see anything about Ukraine or the conflict
for the next couple of weeks, right?
It took them that long to then think,
okay, well, we still got this thing going on over here, right?
People die, and there's a...
Putin continues to operate his meat grinder for the Russian soldiers.
And, you know, so that was incredible.
But then timing-wise, the other thing that I thought was amazing
was despite the brutality of the 7 October attacks,
and Hamas knew this was going to happen,
but the number of days that it took to turn the narrative around, right?
So everybody was horrified at how terrible the slaughter was.
And then within a matter of days, it was like,
nah, it's Israel's fault, right?
Right.
And how did that happen?
Hamas knew that was going to happen because that's what they count on,
which is why they embed themselves with civilians.
It's why they put, you know, their operation centers,
their tunnels, their weapons stockpiles.
That's why they put it all underneath civilian infrastructure,
like the al-Shifa hospital that's been in the news lately and other places,
because they know that they're going to end up with dead Palestinians, right?
And that's kind of...
This sounds wrong, but it's kind of their currency, right?
It's kind of what they expect.
And they don't give a shit.
I mean, you can see just by the way that Hamas has governed,
if you can call it that, Gaza for...
What is that?
That's new math for me.
But since 2006, really, they kicked out Fatah.
They kicked out the Palestinian Authority in 2007.
So you can tell by the fact that they've done nothing to improve the lives of
Palestinians.
They don't give a shit about Palestinians, right?
That's not their point.
Their point is the extermination of Israel because they're overlord in the
Iranian regime.
That's their purpose in life, too.
So it's, you know, I hate to start off on a really, really, you know, cynical
rant,
but they know because they're very, they're clever.
They've got a good public relations group, if you want to call it that.
They understand how international media works.
They know that it won't take much time for condemnation of Israel
because you end up with dead Palestinian civilians, which is incredibly sad,
right?
It's very sad for the Palestinian people, right?
Their plight is legitimately awful, right?
But to imagine somehow that Hamas cares about them or has been some sort of
benevolent, benevolent.
I knew I was going to be able to say that.
That's a word.
That's a fucking word.
Benevolent.
Well, you govern a body of Gaza is ridiculous.
So I don't know.
I guess it's hard to tell where I stand on this issue.
It's so strange that some people, particularly like these really crazy leftists,
have gone as far as saying they were happy when the slaughter took place.
I've seen that.
You had staffers in the UN's refugee office.
I mean, again, keep it in perspective, not a lot of them.
Maybe in private they were, but you had some staffers celebrating openly, right,
through social media, about what happened on the 7th of October, right?
You've got, well, college campuses filled with useful idiots who are happy to,
you know, spout the Hamas narrative.
And you've got protests in the streets and some people, you know, earnestly,
you know, hoping for a better situation for Palestine.
You know, other folks couldn't find, you know, Gaza on a map if you took a map
and shoved it up their ass, you know, it wouldn't work, right?
They just, they don't care, you know, it's the latest thing.
So I don't want to put all the protesters in one camp because, you know, some
are legitimately working to better the lives of Palestinians.
And yes, you can feel awful about what happens with the civilians.
But I'm not sure what people expect Israel to do after what happened on the 7th
of October and after Hamas continued to say, well, we're just going to keep
doing this.
It wasn't like they said, well, there you go.
That was a one-off.
No, they said, we're going to keep doing this because that's their purpose in
life is the destruction of Israel.
I mean, you believe people sometimes when they say things and, you know, that's
what they mean.
It sucks.
That's something that people need to understand that they are embedding these
troops and they're embedding these weapons stockpiles and all these different
things in civilian infrastructure.
Yeah, there was a lot of, I think there's, well, there has been a lot of skepticism
about that and people saying, no, that's Israel's excuse for targeting
civilians.
And, you know, now we're getting some pretty good evidence that that's not the
case.
Isn't a lot of stuff blown up underneath?
Well, like they just, they were just releasing evidence of what they found when
they went into the Rentissi Children's Hospital in Gaza.
And again, weapons stockpiles, disturbingly makeshift rooms or holding cells.
So it appears as if they could have been holding some of the hostages there,
moved them before the IDF got in.
But they, you know, they've done the same with Al-Shifa.
They've gone into this and that's a large, large hospital compound.
And they have been saying for years that they use Al-Shifa as essentially the
command central point for the military structure there for Hamas.
And also for, again, for weapons stockpiles.
I mean, you can't be more cynical as an organization like Hamas than to be
storing ammunition and weapons underneath a children's hospital, as an example.
I mean, so, yeah, I think the best thing that can happen, sounds weird to say
that in a situation like this, but, yeah, Israel needs to be very transparent.
They need to provide as much evidence of this to try to shift that narrative,
at least the people who aren't rabid about this, but have kind of jumped on the,
you know, free Palestine bandwagon because they like to feel righteous, right?
So, at least some of those people can, you can shift off of that narrative by
providing evidence, by being transparent.
So, you know, hopefully that's what the IDF does.
The U.S. has come out and said, look, we back up that intelligence.
We have independent corroboration that they've been using Al-Shifa and other
hospitals, Hamas has, you know, for their personnel, for their stockpiles.
You know, the reality is it's not going to change much of the narrative.
I've been surprised by apparently how many anti-Semitic bigots were just, like,
in the shadows waiting for an opportunity to jump out.
Crazy, right?
Yeah.
The open anti-Semitism online is so shocking.
People chanting in the streets, death to the Jews, like, what?
Yeah, from a variety of quarters.
Yeah, yeah, in 2023, yeah.
And, you know, I guess it's naive to think that maybe we didn't have that
problem anymore, but it's there.
Jewish people have always been saying it, and a lot of people have been saying,
oh, you guys are exaggerating.
Yeah.
And now, I guess everybody has to shut the fuck up about that.
It's like, it's not, it's not, not only are they not exaggerating, they were
kind of underplaying it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think, yeah, they were definitely underplaying it, but I think that if
you, if you look at, again, if you look at what's happening here in America,
right, there's layers to it, right?
You get, what's her name?
Rashida Tlaib, the Palestinian-American in Congress, and she's a member of
whatever they call it, the squad.
And, you know, so she comes out, and she's not, you know, she's fairly rabid,
right?
Meaning, what she's saying about it is not particularly eloquent, right?
And so, she gets censured because, you know, she's just like out there spouting
almost what appears to be pro-Hamas or making some sort of equivalency, right?
Well, she tweeted the incorrect story.
Yes.
About the bombing of the hospital being the responsibility of Israel, and it
wasn't.
That's, that's actually a really, that's a great point, because the attacks
took place 7 October, and then a few days after, there was that, that explosion
at the hospital.
And not only Rashida Tlaib, but.
The New York Times.
The New York Times.
Major news outlets took the word of Hamas, the group that had just, days before,
conducted this awful slaughter, right?
They took their word and said, oh, yeah, yeah, it was an Israeli airstrike
targeting a hospital.
Yeah.
And they, they went with it.
Yeah.
And you think, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Not only that, it hit the parking lot.
It didn't even hit the hospital.
Yeah.
And there wasn't 500 people dead.
No.
There was no, there was no, there was no journalistic curiosity.
There was no, you know, thought that said, well, you know, maybe before we run
with the word of a terrorist organization that just proved how medieval they
are, maybe we should do our own independent checking.
But, I mean, I get it.
In today's world, everybody wants to beat the clock and be the first with a
story.
But how do you do that when you're in the New York Times?
Barely.
Barely, it's not difficult.
How do you do that when you're a congresswoman?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she, but she comes out.
And I guess the point is, she's one layer of this, right?
Of this sort of anti-Semitism and, you know, she's trying to couch it in, you
know, I'm not an anti-Semite.
I'm, I just, I'm drawing some sort of moral equivalency between Hamas and
Israel.
And I get it.
It's a massively complicated history, right?
There's nothing more complicated than the history of Palestine and Israel and
the settlements and all the rest of it.
And no one's probably ever going to solve it.
But then you've got other, you've got the campus activity.
And again, those are youthful people that like to feel righteous about things.
You've got Barack Obama, right, going on a, on a podcast talking about this.
Whose podcast did he go on?
What was that called?
Pod Save America.
But on that, he basically attempted to, well, he didn't attempt, he did.
But in a very subtle, very sophisticated way, more sophisticated than, than
others who get out there and scream from the river to the sea.
He talked about this, like, okay, well, it was unbearable situation for the
Palestinians, which implies that, you know, it's, it's kind of not, not, not,
not, he's not justifying it, I guess, in a sense.
But people will read that into it, right?
Yeah.
And that's dangerous in itself, right?
Because, well, he, I mean, he's listened to, right?
And, and he's, he's, he's beloved.
I guess I could use the word beloved.
Anyway, so I guess what I'm saying is there's layers of this antisemitism or
there's layers of this excusing what took place while not, you know, again, I
don't want to put words in people's mouths, but that's what they're doing,
right?
And, and by calling for a ceasefire, as an example, if you call for a ceasefire,
right, then you're basically saying, I'm okay with the status quo.
Because a ceasefire is not going to lead to a two-state solution.
It's not going to lead to, you know, stability.
It's going to lead to more violence, more terrorism, right?
And the only people that win in a