Name: Whistleblower David Grusch on Early UFO Recoveries
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the Joe Rogan experience the stuff is landing or crashing around the world and
unexpected countries have had this happen and that's why I picked that
because I thought that was a interesting case and then of course the you know
Pope Pius the 12th and the Vatican were involved back channeling it through the
OSS which became the CIA later to FDR and that's how the US knew something
weird happened in Italy during well right before World War two but so this is
33 was the first like documented that is the earliest one I can talk about yeah
there's something that predates that you could infer that you could infer that
yeah
so this 33 one you said was in Italy yeah magenta so it's a I'm bad at
geography I
think that's like a Lombardi region it's like northern Northwest Italy and what's
the story behind it so basically it it looked like it crashed right
the original shape most likely was like a lenticular disc like crafts you know
with
like a two dinner plates where's lenticular mean so like two dinner plates you
know
smushed together right okay and there's like a you know like a bubble on top of
a
classic classic like yeah sir like that like that okay but it looks like when
it hits
the edges broke off so it became this like bell or acorn shaped thing um and
there was nothing in it it
was like just an artifact you know there was no biological remnants if you will
um so it's so
funny because the Italians were so confused they actually called up the Germans
and they were like
like is this one of you have one of off it like what the hell just crashed in
northern Italy
Mussolini I mean this is all publicly available information because some
Italian researchers
um found all these original documents that some people were sitting on for
years in Italy
uh you know they put a gag order on the press etc and yeah Mussolini asked the
Germans to come
down of course the Germans came down and they were like uh that is not ours but
let's look at it
so that's kind of uh perhaps a tertiary reason the kind of Axis powers got
together I'm not saying
that's like the reason but I think the Italians and the Germans were so
intrigued with what they
found from like an artifact perspective there was at least some scientific and
military collaboration
during the war the details of which I'm not I'm not sure of but I know people
that know that specific
event that are currently still intel officers within this program uh in detail
but so was there witnesses
a crash or some sort of an understanding that something had crash landed and
then they discovered it yeah I forget the precise discovery
uh I don't know if it was like uh local police officers or local farmers found
it in the field
something like that I I don't want to misspeak I'm I assume some of the Italian
researchers
might have some fact witnesses that can orally say oh yeah my great grandfather
found it or something like that but I don't remember
what was the scale of this vehicle uh it was probably like like 20 feet by 10
feet something like that not super huge
but kind of big do they think that this was a drone do they think that this was
occupied there was nothing in it so
if it what if it was uh piloted if you will by some sentience I mean your your
guess is as good as mine so
hmm so what happened to that vehicle so we knew where it was being stored at a
particular location um after the crash and then the military came in and we we
grabbed it towards the end of the war you know 1944 1945 because like I said
Pope Pius XII already kind of
uh let's uh FDR know why did the Pope get involved because well Italy well
interestingly enough there's like a whole history of human intelligence prior
to World War II and uh old money the Vatican the Italian mob um kind of the old
country boys did a lot of informal intelligence collection uh for the US and
and there's probably some books you can read on it but it's really interesting
um you know human intelligence collection wasn't really formalized until the
office office of strategic services the OSS which became the CIA in 1947 um you
had um you know Paul Mellon and all these other affluent guys of all these old
money families that basically created the CIA so that's probably the reason why
so this thing that was recovered this was
was the first documented one that the United States had access to I can't get
into if it was the first or not but okay it was an early one very early yeah so
it's almost 100 years ago yes and so they take this thing and then they bring
it where
uh hey yeah I can't I can't get into those can't get into that no okay so they
bring it somewhere in the United States and uh was the attempt to try to back
engineer this thing was the attempt to try to
to understand what it was yeah I mean first of it obviously it's understanding
the situation right what do we have our hands on and and like I've said in some
other videos and stuff you know that we took the Manhattan Project secrecy and
overlaid it on this issue because that secrecy worked well for atomic bomb
developments and whatnot and and certainly this whole program in a nutshell
if I were to like summarize the 90 plus years of history it is a reverse
engineering program to garner some kind of insight and of course not a lot of
the things that we've learned from it are like directly you know ripped off the
technology we found but it has inspired other innovations that made its way
into other U.S. classified programs over the year for national defense reasons
you know and it's a myriad of
different things so the UFO folklore is that this is where fiber optics were
discovered first
yeah I'm not going to break the seal on anything we've discovered or anything
like that and yeah it's a place I can't go to yeah
how limited are you in what you can discuss and what you can't discuss and why
why do they let you discuss any of this
yeah so anything sensitive that I want to say as it relates to like U.S.
government activity whether it be intelligence stuff military stuff etc I have
to submit it through what they call DOPS or DOD office of pre-publication and
security review
that is something anybody who's been an intel officer anybody with like a
clearance has to submit that kind of stuff now obviously if you're writing a
book about gardening you don't have to but if you're going to talk about
anything military and intelligence related you have to submit
so it's kind of a catch-22 for this office right they're only looking at it
from a security perspective they're not vouching for it or anything like that
and that's like any author right they could write a book about Navy SEALs and
they're not vouching for the story they're vouching that you didn't say any
nasty code words you didn't burn a specific ongoing classified program and for
them I mean I'm not in their OODA loop but certainly
it's a catch-22 for them where if they want to redact and they propose a redaction
or like hey Dave you can't say these sentences you can rewrite it and resubmit
you know we can't necessarily tell you what agency said to redact it but you're
not allowed to say this they would be basically self-certifying there's a there
there so in my opinion probably the policy is like if it has to deal with the
subject we're not saying anything we're not proposing any redact
as long as long as he's not burning a conventional program we kind of have to
allow him to exercise his first amendment rights and I so I think it's like a
catch-22 for that office is kind of the long or the short of the long answer so
so this is essentially one of the very early ones 1933 how many crash retrieval
incidents have there been it is double digits and then I think it's like a
catch-22 for that office is kind of the long or the short of the long answer so
so this is essentially one of the very early ones 1933 how many crash retrieval
incidents have there been it is double digits
these specific numbers I do know however I can't discuss that I know it sounds
like oh I'm being coy or whatever but you know this show any other interviews I
do right you know Ford intelligence services are watching and it's like I'm not
here to help Russia and China calibrate their intelligence collection like oh
Dave said it's this number we missed a couple shit let's put it out for the
case
AGB SVR GRU are now going to hit the streets to try to figure out which ones
they miss so I'm I'm here to protect national security and I'm just trying to
put all the general topics out there for public conversation to hold our
government accountable really so because I'm I'm here as a fact witness because
we have a you know a constitutional oversight issue because this program has
not been
you know reported to Congress in the appropriate way you know and I can get
into a senator I talked to that has died recently so I can you know explained
you why I'm so sure besides what I read which we can get into that what Intel
reports reports I read I did get some stuff cleared
a senator I talked to that has died recently. So I can, you know, explain to
you why I'm so
sure. Besides what I read, which we can get into that, what Intel reports I
read,
I did get some stuff cleared. So during my investigation, I'm like, you know
what,
I need to talk to somebody at the highest levels, right? So, and this will give
you an idea of the
kind of people we talk to. And this is the only one I'm going to talk about
using their name
because they died two years ago. So in spring 2021, I actually flew with a
couple colleagues of
mine to Las Vegas. And I met with Senator Harry Reid about nine months before
he died. And of course,
he's a private citizen now. And I wanted to brief him on the topic. And I
wanted to get his kind of
thought leadership on it because, you know, he was a gang of eight member,
right? You know, which is the
top most cleared senators and congressmen. He was the majority leader for God's
sake. So the
Senate and I knew, you know, he helped sponsor the OSAP program that I
mentioned and where they looked
at Skinwalker Ranch and some other things. And I wanted to understand, like,
what does Harry Reid
actually know? Like, why did he, you know, give $21 million to DIA and Bigelow
Aerospace for this?
And so I'm sitting there in Harry Reid's living room, you know, right next to
him with some other
witnesses that were there with me. And he straight up says, he's like, yeah, I
knew we had UFO material.
I was denied access for decades. I tried to get access. And then he explained
some of his efforts
during OSAP. And I was like, holy shit, did the former majority leader just say
that he just confirmed
this to me as well? You know, I was already talking to these amazing high level
people,
but I have Harry Reid literally saying, yes, we have material. And, you know,
he knew it was
non-human.
Did Harry Reid have personal experience with this?
I don't know if he's had any personal stuff in his personal life.
I mean, did he see it? Did he he said in terms of seeing the material himself,
he said he was denied
access for years or decades was his term. And he actually told me on behalf of
me, he was going.
So he had like a weekly call with President Joe Biden at the time. And he
straight up said to me he
was going to talk to President Biden about this issue, literally. And then what
he was telling me
about OSAP, I was like, holy shit, I have like 20 other people that told me
this, dude. So the real
history, what fucking OSAP was, because I think there's a lot of people out
there that think they
were looking at ghosts, Skinwalker Ranch. Yes, they went to the ranch as a
secondary and tertiary
objective. But the real reason, so like there's a document that came out a
couple years ago through
FOIA from the Defense Intelligence Agency, there was this special access
program request that Harry
Reid, you might have seen this, I think like George Knapp and company have
reported on this,
that he sent to the Deputy Secretary of Defense, William Lynn. And it was
asking for one of the most
serious SAPs you can ask for what they call a bigoted waived special access
program. So waived means
it's limited congressional reporting. That is a class of special access
programs. And bigoted means
it's like by name. And it's like, it was like, you can read the FOIA document,
it was like, you know,
Harry Reid, James Inhofe, Lou Elizondo, etc. And I'm like, why are you asking
for the most serious SAP to be
created for a program that ostensibly is looking at Skinwalker Ranch and stuff?
And it doesn't make any
sense. So what really happened there? And, you know, Harry, me, Harry Reid, God
bless his soul, made this
disclosure. A couple weeks after we met in the New Yorker, and you can look
this up, I think it was
like a May 2021 New Yorker story where he says, I knew for decades, and he made
this disclosure,
not me. So I'm going to say the name of the contractor, Harry Reid said this.
You know,
we knew that Lockheed Martin had this material for decades, I tried to get
access, and I was denied.
And specifically with the Lockheed Martin stuff, he was talking about during
the OSAP program. And for
the people who are on this program, I submitted this shit to the DOPSR, got
this cleared, so don't freak
out, but I'm telling the truth here. So Lockheed Martin wanted to divest itself
from this material
at a specific facility that's known to me that I provided to the inspector
general, like street
address, all that shit, right? And the idea was if they made a catcher's mitt,
a security catcher's
government for this shit, you know, most serious set possible, the contractor
and the other government
customer, which was the Central Intelligence Agency, for that specific Lockheed
material. And it was
shit that they recovered from like the 50s and stuff. And it was like bits and
pieces of like hall
structure, shit like that. And so they were going to tech transfer it, and the
21 or 22 million
dollars was actually for Bigelow Aerospace to build out, you know, facilities
in Las Vegas and material
analysis equipment. And I've seen, I have, I saw the staff meeting slides, I
saw the paperwork, like
there's a paperwork trail I've seen on this shit. And I talked to the people
involved in this program. And

Whistleblower David Grusch on Early UFO Recoveries

the Joe Rogan experience the stuff is landing or crashing around the world and
unexpected countries have had this happen and that's why I picked that
because I thought that was a interesting case and then of course the you know
Pope Pius the 12th and the Vatican were involved back channeling it through the
OSS which became the CIA later to FDR and that's how the US knew something
weird happened in Italy during well right before World War two but so this is
33 was the first like documented that is the earliest one I can talk about yeah
there's something that predates that you could infer that you could infer that
yeah
so this 33 one you said was in Italy yeah magenta so it's a I'm bad at
geography I
think that's like a Lombardi region it's like northern Northwest Italy and what's
the story behind it so basically it it looked like it crashed right
the original shape most likely was like a lenticular disc like crafts you know
with
like a two dinner plates where's lenticular mean so like two dinner plates you
know
smushed together right okay and there's like a you know like a bubble on top of
a
classic classic like yeah sir like that like that okay but it looks like when
it hits
the edges broke off so it became this like bell or acorn shaped thing um and
there was nothing in it it
was like just an artifact you know there was no biological remnants if you will
um so it's so
funny because the Italians were so confused they actually called up the Germans
and they were like
like is this one of you have one of off it like what the hell just crashed in
northern Italy
Mussolini I mean this is all publicly available information because some
Italian researchers
um found all these original documents that some people were sitting on for
years in Italy
uh you know they put a gag order on the press etc and yeah Mussolini asked the
Germans to come
down of course the Germans came down and they were like uh that is not ours but
let's look at it
so that's kind of uh perhaps a tertiary reason the kind of Axis powers got
together I'm not saying
that's like the reason but I think the Italians and the Germans were so
intrigued with what they
found from like an artifact perspective there was at least some scientific and
military collaboration
during the war the details of which I'm not I'm not sure of but I know people
that know that specific
event that are currently still intel officers within this program uh in detail
but so was there witnesses
a crash or some sort of an understanding that something had crash landed and
then they discovered it yeah I forget the precise discovery
uh I don't know if it was like uh local police officers or local farmers found
it in the field
something like that I I don't want to misspeak I'm I assume some of the Italian
researchers
might have some fact witnesses that can orally say oh yeah my great grandfather
found it or something like that but I don't remember
what was the scale of this vehicle uh it was probably like like 20 feet by 10
feet something like that not super huge
but kind of big do they think that this was a drone do they think that this was
occupied there was nothing in it so
if it what if it was uh piloted if you will by some sentience I mean your your
guess is as good as mine so
hmm so what happened to that vehicle so we knew where it was being stored at a
particular location um after the crash and then the military came in and we we
grabbed it towards the end of the war you know 1944 1945 because like I said
Pope Pius XII already kind of
uh let's uh FDR know why did the Pope get involved because well Italy well
interestingly enough there's like a whole history of human intelligence prior
to World War II and uh old money the Vatican the Italian mob um kind of the old
country boys did a lot of informal intelligence collection uh for the US and
and there's probably some books you can read on it but it's really interesting
um you know human intelligence collection wasn't really formalized until the
office office of strategic services the OSS which became the CIA in 1947 um you
had um you know Paul Mellon and all these other affluent guys of all these old
money families that basically created the CIA so that's probably the reason why
so this thing that was recovered this was
was the first documented one that the United States had access to I can't get
into if it was the first or not but okay it was an early one very early yeah so
it's almost 100 years ago yes and so they take this thing and then they bring
it where
uh hey yeah I can't I can't get into those can't get into that no okay so they
bring it somewhere in the United States and uh was the attempt to try to back
engineer this thing was the attempt to try to
to understand what it was yeah I mean first of it obviously it's understanding
the situation right what do we have our hands on and and like I've said in some
other videos and stuff you know that we took the Manhattan Project secrecy and
overlaid it on this issue because that secrecy worked well for atomic bomb
developments and whatnot and and certainly this whole program in a nutshell
if I were to like summarize the 90 plus years of history it is a reverse
engineering program to garner some kind of insight and of course not a lot of
the things that we've learned from it are like directly you know ripped off the
technology we found but it has inspired other innovations that made its way
into other U.S. classified programs over the year for national defense reasons
you know and it's a myriad of
different things so the UFO folklore is that this is where fiber optics were
discovered first
yeah I'm not going to break the seal on anything we've discovered or anything
like that and yeah it's a place I can't go to yeah
how limited are you in what you can discuss and what you can't discuss and why
why do they let you discuss any of this
yeah so anything sensitive that I want to say as it relates to like U.S.
government activity whether it be intelligence stuff military stuff etc I have
to submit it through what they call DOPS or DOD office of pre-publication and
security review
that is something anybody who's been an intel officer anybody with like a
clearance has to submit that kind of stuff now obviously if you're writing a
book about gardening you don't have to but if you're going to talk about
anything military and intelligence related you have to submit
so it's kind of a catch-22 for this office right they're only looking at it
from a security perspective they're not vouching for it or anything like that
and that's like any author right they could write a book about Navy SEALs and
they're not vouching for the story they're vouching that you didn't say any
nasty code words you didn't burn a specific ongoing classified program and for
them I mean I'm not in their OODA loop but certainly
it's a catch-22 for them where if they want to redact and they propose a redaction
or like hey Dave you can't say these sentences you can rewrite it and resubmit
you know we can't necessarily tell you what agency said to redact it but you're
not allowed to say this they would be basically self-certifying there's a there
there so in my opinion probably the policy is like if it has to deal with the
subject we're not saying anything we're not proposing any redact
as long as long as he's not burning a conventional program we kind of have to
allow him to exercise his first amendment rights and I so I think it's like a
catch-22 for that office is kind of the long or the short of the long answer so
so this is essentially one of the very early ones 1933 how many crash retrieval
incidents have there been it is double digits and then I think it's like a
catch-22 for that office is kind of the long or the short of the long answer so
so this is essentially one of the very early ones 1933 how many crash retrieval
incidents have there been it is double digits
these specific numbers I do know however I can't discuss that I know it sounds
like oh I'm being coy or whatever but you know this show any other interviews I
do right you know Ford intelligence services are watching and it's like I'm not
here to help Russia and China calibrate their intelligence collection like oh
Dave said it's this number we missed a couple shit let's put it out for the
case
AGB SVR GRU are now going to hit the streets to try to figure out which ones
they miss so I'm I'm here to protect national security and I'm just trying to
put all the general topics out there for public conversation to hold our
government accountable really so because I'm I'm here as a fact witness because
we have a you know a constitutional oversight issue because this program has
not been
you know reported to Congress in the appropriate way you know and I can get
into a senator I talked to that has died recently so I can you know explained
you why I'm so sure besides what I read which we can get into that what Intel
reports reports I read I did get some stuff cleared
a senator I talked to that has died recently. So I can, you know, explain to
you why I'm so
sure. Besides what I read, which we can get into that, what Intel reports I
read,
I did get some stuff cleared. So during my investigation, I'm like, you know
what,
I need to talk to somebody at the highest levels, right? So, and this will give
you an idea of the
kind of people we talk to. And this is the only one I'm going to talk about
using their name
because they died two years ago. So in spring 2021, I actually flew with a
couple colleagues of
mine to Las Vegas. And I met with Senator Harry Reid about nine months before
he died. And of course,
he's a private citizen now. And I wanted to brief him on the topic. And I
wanted to get his kind of
thought leadership on it because, you know, he was a gang of eight member,
right? You know, which is the
top most cleared senators and congressmen. He was the majority leader for God's
sake. So the
Senate and I knew, you know, he helped sponsor the OSAP program that I
mentioned and where they looked
at Skinwalker Ranch and some other things. And I wanted to understand, like,
what does Harry Reid
actually know? Like, why did he, you know, give $21 million to DIA and Bigelow
Aerospace for this?
And so I'm sitting there in Harry Reid's living room, you know, right next to
him with some other
witnesses that were there with me. And he straight up says, he's like, yeah, I
knew we had UFO material.
I was denied access for decades. I tried to get access. And then he explained
some of his efforts
during OSAP. And I was like, holy shit, did the former majority leader just say
that he just confirmed
this to me as well? You know, I was already talking to these amazing high level
people,
but I have Harry Reid literally saying, yes, we have material. And, you know,
he knew it was
non-human.
Did Harry Reid have personal experience with this?
I don't know if he's had any personal stuff in his personal life.
I mean, did he see it? Did he he said in terms of seeing the material himself,
he said he was denied
access for years or decades was his term. And he actually told me on behalf of
me, he was going.
So he had like a weekly call with President Joe Biden at the time. And he
straight up said to me he
was going to talk to President Biden about this issue, literally. And then what
he was telling me
about OSAP, I was like, holy shit, I have like 20 other people that told me
this, dude. So the real
history, what fucking OSAP was, because I think there's a lot of people out
there that think they
were looking at ghosts, Skinwalker Ranch. Yes, they went to the ranch as a
secondary and tertiary
objective. But the real reason, so like there's a document that came out a
couple years ago through
FOIA from the Defense Intelligence Agency, there was this special access
program request that Harry
Reid, you might have seen this, I think like George Knapp and company have
reported on this,
that he sent to the Deputy Secretary of Defense, William Lynn. And it was
ask