Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2069 - Dr. Shawn Baker
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2069 - Dr. Shawn Baker' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-11-28. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2069 - Dr. Shawn Baker

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night all day good we're up awesome Sean good to see you good to be back Joe
you're still alive
you've been eating nothing but meat you're still alive I am still fucking doubters
be gone yeah
yeah hey Joe before we get started I just want to say thank you for one for the
stem cell stuff but
also for you know just just having the conversations that other people are not
willing to
have and you know we've I see where they try to cancel you and all the BS and
and you know you
didn't have to do that but you you know let other people have discussions we're
not being censored so
just in case other people I'm sure you've been told that well thank you I
appreciate that it's
it's a weird time man it's first of all it's a weird time that a guy like me
has a show
which is bizarre that this kind of you know that I'm a source of information in
some sort of strange
way because that's certainly not what I set out to do just along the line I'm
you know I'm curious I
wanted to talk to people you know including you and uh this diet and you know I
tell people I uh I'm
not strict with uh my carnivore diet like Saturday night I had sushi but I'll
tell you I felt like
shit afterwards I ate a ton of it I ate so much I'm a glutton but uh all that
rice I was like oh
it just makes me realize like how much better I feel when I only eat carnivore
when I when I just eat
mostly meat I feel so much better I mean uh maybe it's anecdotal maybe it's
just me and you
maybe and many other people that do it but there's something to it but you're
an extreme example
because you have been doing it now for how many years so I'm starting my eighth
year so just just uh
eighth year yeah so when I came to see you last time it was almost it was six
years ago so I had
been just finished seven years now so yeah it's been a while and people should
know that you're you're
actually a doctor you're an orthopedic surgeon and you didn't didn't at one
point in time they took
your license away because you were providing medical information but you got it
back yeah it was kind
of an interesting thing so when I was I was practicing medicine busy orthopedic
surgeon you know plugging
away doing a thing and then I started realizing hey I can have people avoid
surgery by changing their diet
their pain went away I was like you don't need surgery well that is not what
hospitals want you to do
they want you to you know keep the keep the the engines turning so to speak and
so I you know just
said hey look I want to practice some lifestyle stuff and that ended up you
know leading to a long battle
with myself in the hospital the hospital basically suspended my privileges and
went to the state the
state said hey you can fight this um you know in in our in our sort of state
medical board situation or
you can get independently evaluated and I said well let me just get
independently evaluated because I don't
I don't I don't see eye to eye with the hospital and so that was done it was
like right at the time when
I saw you a couple days before and they came back and said there's nothing
wrong with you go back to
work and so I got that I got that and then I had to you know reapply to the
board reapplied for a license
they granted my license and I've renewed it three times since then so I'm a
licensed medical you know
licensed doctor you know uh but I just you know right now I'm not actually
actively practicing because
I got frustrated with the medical system I think our health care system has
some serious serious problems you
know some serious conflicts of interest some serious I think the the incentives
for providing what I think
is appropriate health care is is misaligned and so you know over the last few
years so we set up a
company which is called rivero and we're licensed in all 50 states we have
physicians all across the
country and we're basically set up to provide what I call actual health care
root cause medicine get
people off the medications actually you know try and fix their disease and not
just medicate everybody
because we have such a system where everybody's just like you know you go to
the doctor you know
here's your diagnosis here's your drugs keep stay on the rest of your life
which I think is the wrong
the wrong course yeah I couldn't agree more what's the name of the company so
the company's called
rivero r-e-v-e-r-o and so we raise a bunch of money from from crowdfunding and
also a bunch of
venture capitalists and so uh we've been we've been basically building that we've
got thousands of
people that are basically on the waiting list we launch in a couple weeks and
so uh you know so like
i said it's going to be something that i think will provide health care as it
should be you know instead
of like i said instead of the just the symptom management putting band-aids on
stuff actually
getting people healthy because i think a lot of diseases are reversible and we've
seen that all the
time you know we see that pretty frequently well that's one of the most
fascinating things about
this carnivore diet is how many albeit anecdotal stories you have of people
that had all these
different conditions chronic pain rheumatoid arthritis chronic fatigue all
these different issues
skin issues eczema all these different things that they were treating with
medication it wasn't working
they were experiencing side effects they start eliminating everything from
their diet except
for me and all of a sudden these problems go away i mean there's too many of
those stories for it to be
ignored yeah it's it's i've been astounded by the number of number of you know
just crazy crazy things
that have happened and again it's not you know it's not that you know that is
the the most profound
rigorous type of type of science that you can do but it's you can't ignore it
at this point there are
literally probably hundreds of thousands of people now trying i go over i've
been all over the world
now talking about this and i get people from germany and greece and you know
china and japan and africa
that have all done this analysis same thing look i was sick and now i'm not
sick anymore and so
whether or not that is you know enough evidence to say this is you know a a
good treatment you know i can't
say that but you can't deny it's happening and i'm i've been trying to get
research done in fact
there was a study done out of harvard university two years ago i don't know if
you saw that so
there's a guy named david ludwig who is a senior author and david i've talked
to him he is the most
ethical you know just like he does not want any money from industry he refuses
to take anything he's
like i want to make sure i do pure science and they did a study and they looked
at 2 000 people on
the carnivore diet and basically what they saw was like 95 of the people
significant improvement
across the board now uh the thing that was interesting to me is the diabetics
we had like 225 diabetics
in that population 92 of them came off all their insulin these are all type 2s
you know that's that's
that's you know 100 came off all these other injectable drugs the glp1 receptor
agonists which
we've heard so much about lately you know the ozempics and things like that semaglutide
right
came off uh something called a pcsk9 inhibitor no sorry the sgl t2 inhibitors
uh 84 came off their
metformin so it's just like this is clearly a uh at least at the very least a
therapeutic tool and
that's how i push this i don't tell like you know i wrote a book on this i didn't
say humans are
carnivores i said humans are opportunistic omnivores if we were if we were
living in the middle ages and
we came across we're out hunting mammoths and all of a sudden you know the ice
ages round and we came
across a tree full of twinkies i mean we'd play oh i'm gonna eat that you know
we'd try right we'd eat
it right because you know we would but i mean it's and you know there's people
there's obviously people
that eat plants that aren't dead and are doing okay so we're omnivores but from
a disease you know
mitigation standpoint i mean a third a therapeutic carnivore diet is
tremendously effective i mean it's
one of the more effective things i've seen across the board and so at the very
least you know you'd say
let's explore that aspect of it because you know like i said there's people
that are suffering we've
got so many people i know we may talk about vegan carnivore although you know
everything in between
but i think at the end of the day everybody's eating processed garbage i mean
yeah we're just eating
bullshit i mean and and that is really one of the problems and the one thing
and you said this joe when
you eat just meat you're like i don't want that other because you're actually
satiated and this is a
thing that's i think problematic because if you look at interesting there's a
study that just came
out now looking at um the financial incentive for ultra processed food why do
we have this stuff so you
look at the big uh asset management groups you know you've got blackrock you
got vanguard you've got
state street uh and capital and i can't remember the full names on these but
but those guys collectively
own huge portions of nestle pest pepsico all these other processed food
companies they also have
they also have significant shares in pharmaceutical manufacturers so you
basically
you sick in the population by feeding them garbage and then you just you you
profit on their on their
disease and i think that's what's going on and i think it's really unfortunate
you know and i think
you know some people make an argument you know is it is a net is there a net
benefit from feeding more
people versus how many people are getting sick and i think there's a point
where you know the line goes
you know if if every most people are getting sick from this and only a few
people are benefiting
then you've you've kind of crossed that line of you know does it does it is it
for the greater good
and it becomes you know the realm of almost evil in my in my mind well i think
it started out with
just trying to make money i mean that's that's what started out with the
processed foods
and i think then they realized well now you're selling more medication to these
people so you make more
money on top of that more money i don't even think it's a conspiracy i think it's
just opportunity i
think they just look at profits and that's what these corporations are
established for
that their bottom line is they're supposed to make as much money as they can
for their shareholders
that's their responsibility their responsibility is to have like a cute cartoon
guy that sells you
sugary cereal because you know when i was a kid that's what i wanted i want
cocoa pops i wanted
frank and frank and frank frank and berry all that stuff yeah i mean there's a
reason why all that
garbage is like it's so addictive it's so delicious you know and it's uh
clearly targeted for young
people clearly yeah i mean that paper that i that i talked about and i think
you know it's in that list
that'll give jamie but um it basically says this is the whole thing they make
tremendous short-term
profits for their for their shareholders and that's why they do it so yeah it's
clearly
financially driven you can't blame them i mean this is what any business wants
to do this wants to be
successful exactly it's about making money like everything is really yeah that's
what they do
i think the cutting the out is the biggest factor in this whole carnivore diet
thing i really do
i mean i i i definitely think there's there's obviously meat itself regardless
of the
the propaganda meat is the most nutrient dense food you can eat all this crap
where they say that meat
causes cancer if meat caused cancer most people would have cancer 95 plus
percent of the population
on earth eats meat and all this propaganda you hear about you know you're going
to get cancer
you're good diseases are going to go all 