Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2070 - Evan Hafer
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2070 - Evan Hafer' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2023-11-29. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2070 - Evan Hafer

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As far as like the cage fighting commentators.
That's what you're classifying yourself as.
Yeah, pothead comedian slash cage fighting commentator.
Cage fighting commentary.
I got a pretty solid IQ for that.
No, that's great.
So you said it was the average, there's 16% of America that has below 85 IQ.
Correct.
So that's the cutoff for military service.
They can't take somebody in.
This is the kind of talk to start Hitler off.
It's like when they start getting some master race eugenics.
Because, you know, like, I would never, ever say that people shouldn't breed.
I would never say anything like that.
You wouldn't?
I would never.
Are you serious?
If we were in elk hunting camp, I'd fucking tell you that.
But publicly, I would never say that.
You would never say it on this podcast.
Yeah.
I mean, here's the thing.
I don't know what my parents' IQs were.
What if my parents were, you know, like, what if they got IQs and their IQ
tests were really low?
Well, I mean, isn't it possible that someone who's not that bright has a super
smart kid, like, they give them enough vaccines and the kid comes out a genius?
I hope that's the case for my kids.
Like, God, I hope so.
Like, I hope they got a little bit more than I do.
Yeah.
Life's hard when you're stupid.
Oh, my God.
It's so hard when you're dumb.
See, I've had conversations with dudes and, like, halfway in the conversation,
I'm like, this poor motherfucker with this dim light bulb.
Like, typically me.
That's the way I feel, where I'm like, ah, I'm running this thing to the red,
you know?
Like, I've got max RPMs going on up here, down here.
Yeah, I got to head dinner with Eric Weinstein.
Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about.
It's crazy.
I'm just trying to, like.
Impossible to keep up.
It's like, you're at VO2 max, and he hasn't even, like, stepped off the curb
mentally.
Yeah, he's not even sweating.
Yeah, he's like, let me explain this to you.
He got out the crayons and drew me some pictures.
That's not how that fucking works.
Dude, he literally wrote, I don't even know if it's been disproven.
See, this is the thing.
The stuff that he discusses is so complex that there's only, like, what's the
amount of people in the world that could even argue with him about it?
Ten?
He wrote a theory of everything.
The theory of everything.
And he announced it on this podcast.
He, like, published this theory, and he's putting it out there for people to
judge.
And I don't know how it's been received.
I don't know.
But how would I know?
I mean, I would never understand who's, like, one of the things that I've
learned during COVID.
This whole trust the experts thing, suck my dick.
Okay, that's nonsense.
There's a lot of these people that are fucking full of shit and bought and paid
for.
And I don't trust just the experts anymore.
I trust some experts.
I trust if I can understand what they're talking about and I know where maybe
their conflicts lie, I can see, well, why would they be ignoring certain
studies but highlighting others?
Oh, there's a conflict of interest.
Oh, there's some money involved.
Oh, maybe there's a revolving door and they can get into some nice agency or
some corporation after they're done with the agency.
I can kind of look at that, but it takes time.
With this shit, what he's talking about, I have no idea who the experts are.
I have no idea.
He's literally talking about a theory of everything.
And it was Brian Callen and me, and it was a wild conversation.
Did you even get to talk?
Yeah, yeah.
With Brian Callen and Eric Weinstein.
How much did you get to talk?
I got to talk like 10% of the time, which I felt was...
That's a solid number.
Yeah, that's a solid number.
Like, I showed up.
I got up to bat.
You know, I can't say I ever hit the ball, but I was at least participating.
Dude, I've had conversations with Jordan Peterson where we've had a three-and-a-half-hour
conversation.
I've talked for three minutes.
Now, that does not surprise me at all because he can go.
He can go.
That guy can go.
He can go.
Have you watched the Monk debates with him?
Yes, I did.
Those are incredible.
Amazing.
Him and, was it Malcolm Gladwell, that debate when he...
Yes.
Douglas Murray.
Yes.
Jordan Peterson.
That thing was so good because I just love watching those guys intellectually
eviscerate people
because it's hilarious to me.
I do, but it becomes a bit of an intellectual rap battle.
And that's what I don't like about it.
Yeah, okay.
I just feel like it's beneath those guys.
And when I see guys like Malcolm dunking on people, I'm like...
Yeah.
Shouldn't we just be discussing the data?
Like, instead of trying to invoke an emotional response from someone...
I understand why you would do that if you were fucking with someone, if you
wanted to have
an argument with someone.
But like, what is this publicly for?
Why is it public?
Well, it's public because we're trying to understand who's right and who's
wrong.
I want to know why you think the way you think.
There's clearly many different schools of thought when it comes to many
cultural things.
And people are fiercely opposed to the other side.
I want to know where you're coming from.
If you're dunking on people, like, now I do know where you're coming from.
I don't like that.
I don't like...
Because like, first of all, it's not anything that funny.
If you're going to do it, be good at it.
Like, be fucking funny.
And also, it's not necessary to this argument, this discussion.
You should really be talking about why you really believe what you believe.
And what you think is wrong with this opposing opinion.
Not just being silly.
I love, but I do, I love the debate stage.
Like, I love that forum for two people to take a topic.
I used to watch debates.
I think PBS used to do a series on just, you know, they take one topic and they
chew it up.
And they figure out where is the crowd before and then where was the crowd
after.
And they're fascinating.
Because when people are going from opposing points, they're going back and
forth.
If they stick to facts and they don't get personal.
Because that's when it actually starts to get, like, really, now you're just
kind of being personal.
You're degrading the actual conversation.
You're not going...
It's not a fight.
It's not, like...
From my perspective, you look at it, you're like, it's kind of like watching a
match.
Where you're watching two guys go back and forth, hit for hit.
Yes.
And seeing guys like Jordan and Douglas Murray or some of those guys really
flex.
It's pretty, it's pretty funny to me.
Sam Harris is the goat at that.
Yeah.
When it comes to, like, religious debates.
That guy's the best at that shit.
Because he has this measured tone.
And he never loses his cool.
And he has so much fucking information.
That's when I became a fan of his.
Is watching those religious debates.
Yeah.
You know, because, like, sometimes when people believe a thing so much, they
haven't ever looked at the thing the way someone who doesn't believe in the
thing looks at it.
Right.
And when you get a guy like Sam, who's so eloquent and is not buying it.
And he has a bunch of, like, really logical reasons why he's not buying it.
And some of them are pretty funny.
Yeah.
And when he brings those up in front of you and then the audience is laughing,
it's like, ooh, this is a tough spot to be in.
Because they're trying to pull out all the stops and try to figure out why you're
right.
When you've got that much power to not only debate somebody on a subject with
an encyclopedia of information and be funny so you can be charismatic, you can
be logical, you can keep a measured tone.
That guy's pretty fucking skilled.
Oh, he's a wizard at that shit.
Yeah.
He's a wizard at that shit.
But it's a game.
You know, you're playing.
It's like jujitsu.
It's like chess.
It's like you're playing this game.
It's a bunch of moves and trying to figure out who can get their moves off.
But I think people genuinely want to know.
Like, did you ever see that movie?
There's a documentary about, um, God, what was it called?
The one about Gore Vidal and, um, that, what's that guy?
Best of Enemies?
Yes, Best of Enemies.
No, I haven't seen it.
Gore Vidal and, what's the fucking other guy's name?
I always forget his name.
William Buckley.
Yeah, William Buckley.
So Buckley's the conservative and Gore Vidal is the, the, the, and they aired
these, I think
it was on NBC.
Is that what it was on?
ABC or NBC?
Oh, yeah.
But it got huge ratings.
Like, they were losing in the ratings and this was kind of a Hail Mary.
Have William F. Buckley as the leading conservative and Gore Vidal, who's this
wild liberal.
And so they were on, uh, moderated on ABC?
Yeah.
ABC.
Uh, news coverage of the Republican National Convention in Miami.
So this is 1968.
They're fucking great, man.
Yeah.
Because they're, one of the things that people are knowing through, learning
through podcasts,
when you talk about guys like Eric Weinstein or guys like Jordan Peterson or
Sam Harrison,
people want to hear people talk.
They want to, there's, the people that are above that 85 IQ, you know, what is
it?
84% of the population?
Yes.
The people that are above, those fucking people want, they want to hear how
interesting,
intelligent people are discussing ideas.
Yeah.
And you don't see any of that shit on TV.
No.
Except Bill Marshall.
But even Bill Marshall, there's a lot of people talking over each other.
Yeah.
And it's got a, it's an hour.
Everything's got to fit in an hour.
It's on HBO.
Which is why I think he's doing his own show.
He's doing his own podcast now.
Yeah, it's like After Dark or something.
Club Random.
Yeah.
Okay, there you go.
It's very good.
I've seen it.
It's very good.
And he's really himself in that.
Like the Bill Marshall, if you want to chill with Bill and have a drink, he
really does
a fantastic job of just being himself.
It's not, it's not interesting when you, when you think about Bill Maher and
his, you know,
his kind of outward appearance from his political point of view, which is
typically going to be left.
Yeah.
And then guys that go on a show and they have this really complex, interesting
conversation.
But for, for a bunch of people, they won't even watch Bill because he's left.
Yeah.
They won't even watch.
So they're going to stick in their echo chamber.
They're going to continue to kind of propagate out speaking points from either
platform.
And they're never going to go out and watch different things just based on a
person's political view.
Yeah.
Joining a political party or being in a political party, like ideologically in
your head is not
good for you.
It's bad for, like, there are a lot of things that people who are on the right
believe that
I agree with.
And there's a lot of things that people on the left believe and I agree with.
And I refuse.
I refuse to be a part of this left versus right thing.
I think it's stupid.
I think it's bad for us.
I think it's a trap.
Yeah.
I think it's a really dumb trap in America.
And Bill Maher says a lot of really wise shit.
And he says a lot of shit about culture that goes against the ideology that he's
a part
of being he's as deep in the Hollywood system as is humanly possible.
He's a political host on a show on HBO.
I mean, that's like deep Hollywood.
Right.
You know, he knows where the sex parties are at.
Because he's probably he's probably the guy set in the pen.
Yeah.
He knows who's wearing the goat mask.
You know, like if there's a fucking Illuminati in Hollywood.
That guy's meanwhile, you know, he does all these jokes in his monologue about
transitioning
kids.
Right.
About like, hey, maybe we shouldn't just break out the dick saw right away.
And I'm like, yo, Bill is going for it.
Yeah.
That because he never stopped being a comic.
Bill Maher, out of all these guys that become hosts of talk shows, he never
stopped just
being a comic.
He never stopped touring.
He n