Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2079 - Brigham Buhler
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Joe Rogan Experience #2079 - Brigham Buhler

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan
podcast by
night all day we're back we're back what's cracking same stuff new day yeah
sort of the
war on peptides is going on right now it is it's interesting it's to explain it
is is gonna take a
little bit of time but I'd love to dig into it because yeah let's explain it
because there is
no reason why they would be banning these things other than for their own
profit you got it that's
the gist of it only reason so there is no danger that these things are causing
there's no public
health concern there's no people dropping dead but meanwhile people are
dropping dead from the ones
that they have sanctioned yeah and so I I like to tell people what you're
seeing is a symptom of a
disease and the same thing we do in health care we don't talk about the
symptoms we don't treat this
we we unfortunately do treat the symptom and not the root cause of the disease
and so to diagnose what
the real issue is we've got to dig a little deeper into the history and what's
going on there and it's
a pretty insidious disease and it's spread throughout all of the government and
that disease is private
industry and its influence on the federal government and the decisions they
make and we're going to talk
a little bit about large language models later and in the future of what I
think healthcare is but one
of the critiques of large language models is it's only as good as the data you
put in and I would argue that
I would argue that humanity is no different it is only as good as the data that
you put in and so if the
federal government and the FDA is going to allow an open-door policy with big
pharma they're going to
come to the conclusions and decisions and policies that benefit big pharma and
so if we take a little walk
through history you'll see time and time again how this has happened so I'm
gonna jump way back first if
you're good with this so you go way back there was a small little company that
reached out to the Third Reich
and said hey we need a hundred and fifty participants for our clinical trial
the Nazi regime shipped a hundred and fifty healthy
Jewish women to this uh this pharmaceutical company to test its products
literally within six months there's letters back to the Third Reich from this
pharmaceutical company
saying thank you so much for your cooperation the women arrived in great health
and working order
unfortunately none of them none of them made it through the initial phases of
our trial they killed a hundred and fifty women
we kindly request that you send us another hundred and fifty women
that little company became Bayer which is now a mega pharmaceutical company
and I say that because right that was the 50s it would have changed by now that
was forever ago
right the world's a different place we would never allow that today
jump forward post World War two I talked about this on RFK's podcast
eisenhower had that and yeah you said it was the 50s it couldn't have been the
well the 40s
sorry and so I isn't jump forward to is there a way to turn the volume down
yeah there's a button or knob right there
there we go so jump forward to
uh eisenhower's speech his uh famous speech about the military-industrial
complex
what a lot of people don't realize is there was a second half to that speech
where eisenhower warned the american people about the medical-industrial
complex he warned that if
we allow private industry to control monopolize and profiteer off of health and
health care that
they will silo innovation stifle innovation and capitalize and monetize
innovation and I would argue
that's a hundred percent what we've seen and it's continuing so and the reason
I want to walk the public
through this is because to understand what's going on you've got to see the
history of how it's happened
so now you jump forward to the 80s okay time and time again when big pharma has
had an opportunity
to choose left or right over and over again they have chose profits over
patient outcomes so 1980s
uh Bayer launches a hemophilia drug they inadvertently contaminate thousands of
specimens with hiv
they know that they've contaminated specimens with hiv this drug with hiv virus
what do they do they have a decision
destroy all of it or ship it to the public anyway they shipped it into third
world countries africa and asian markets
and infected 20 000 people with the hiv virus what this is the 80s when it was
a death sentence
and so I say that to set the groundwork for why would they ban peptides look at
this from this article
division the pharmaceutical company bear sold millions of dollars of blood clotting
medicine for hemophiliacs
medicine that carried a high risk of transmitting aids to asia and latin america
in the mid-1980s while selling a new
safer product in the west according to documents obtained by the new york times
holy shit and to everything I referenced jamie because this was something last
time I am going to mention a lot of controversial stuff
so I've listed reference after reference after reference after reference on the
Ways to Well website
anything that I reference will be on there as well
um but so jump forward they infect all these people with hiv okay in the 80s
compounding pharmacies and specialty pharmacies
and generic manufacturers attempted to create hiv treatment options that were
affordable for third world countries
because at the time it was like $14,000 a month for an hiv treatment to keep
you alive nobody could afford that in those countries
so what happens does big pharma in a market they can't sell in a market they
can't touch in a market where they
inadvertently infected or I would say almost knowingly infected 20,000 people
with hiv
they then lobby with the US government file and sue the shit out of all of
these companies that were attempting to make cost-effective generics
it caught it up in litigation for three years before finally they bent to the
will of the American people and the feedback of the public
there was outrage over this and finally after three years of litigation big pharma
said basically screw it
go ahead and give them the hiv let them make these hiv meds in these countries
that aren't buying our product anyway
and so I just say all this so you know the people were dealing with right and
then you jump forward to the opioid crisis
which was predicated by the Valium crisis of the I think that was the 40s or 50s
and so time and time again
and so how does the FDA come to these conclusions it's because a majority of
their funding comes from private industry
and a majority of their discussion their talk track their influence their
belief systems and their thought processes
are being influenced by these companies so when we talk about peptides today in
specific
there's over 7,000 peptides on the market okay what peptides didn't get banned
that answers the question in itself
the GLP one agonists insulin those aren't banned those are all patented peptides
these are peptides these are
short chain amino acids found naturally in nature they were patented for the
dosage and delivery mechanism
because you cannot patent a molecule you can only patent the delivery mechanism
and the dosage
and so the FDA allows all those peptides but it's because big pharma is monetizing
them and big pharma has their ear
and so we we talked a little bit about this on the last podcast and I didn't
dig as deep because we didn't have as much time
we just burned so much time covering all of this crap but one of the things I
saw is it goes beyond the FDA
this insidious virus that this disease state that we're seeing the symptoms of
carries all the way into the DEA
the DOJ when I was a when I owned my own pharmacies and labs that build
insurance
that was one of the things I was talking about I hired a former Department of
Justice prosecutor
to come in and help me build out my compliance program and he told me Brigham
when I was at the DOJ
we had an open meeting every month with the heads of the pharmacy benefit
managers where they would come with stacks of papers
books of papers of people that they wanted us to federally indict okay
and so as I begin to layer this you'll understand where this is going
so indict if they can't indict someone if they did nothing wrong right that
would be the the lens that the average American has
so let me explain you have a let's say I build a blood lab which I did and I go
out and I educate clinicians on the importance of running comprehensive blood
work
I go to the insurance companies and I say I would like to be in network with
you United, Cigna, Aetna
their response is go pound sand we're not taking any more in network contracts
so my options at that point are to lay everyone off shut down and go home
uh or bill them out of network the issue with billing them out of network and
so so the patients understand or the the listeners
you're paying for out of network benefits and you're paying these big companies
these big insurance companies for the right to be able to choose where you get
your blood work done your blood work analysis all of these things
what ends up happening is if you're out of network as a lab as any of these
whether it's a blood lab a genetic screening lab
like Gary talked about the MTF HR test the test we were doing that eight nine
years ago that was one of the tests
we offered was this gene carrier test to identify the root cause of why people
are having these issues
any of it insurance said no we're not you're we're not going to let you in
network
so you're forced to build out of network what does that mean they pay me thirty
percent of billed charges
so if it cost me three hundred dollars and i need to make three hundred fifty
dollars i now have to
basically bill the insurance one thousand dollars to get paid my three hundred
and fifty dollars are you following me
yes okay now what the insurance companies do is they wait till i've billed them
millions and millions of dollars
then they go sit down at a desk with the department of justice and they say
look at this
this motherfucker billed us a thousand dollars a test on a test that should
have been three hundred and fifty dollars
right and i'm not blaming the department of justice they are acting upon the
information that they are given
right they are being fed bad information by bad players and that leads to bad
decisions and and at that point
if they bring forth a case on somebody you're done and so it's it's a
terrifying space um and it's
it's in every branch of the government there's such a long reach of the ability
to uh impress upon people
how so they're they're almost influencing decision making through enforcement
um rather than through
legislation right so the checks and balances are being cut out from under the
american people
because there is no checks or balance does that make sense at all and so this
is what i explained
again on rfk was but if you're if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing
to worry about
when i started this the the head of the doj who i hired to help me with
compliance he told me
there's two things that will get you in trouble with the department of justice
a lot of money and bad
facts so if you're a successful entrepreneur you're going to generate a lot of
money and if you get on
the wrong side of a pharmacy i mean of a not a pharmacy benefit mayor of an
insurance company they're going
they're going to generate the bad facts and now you're a target and now you're
on the department of
justice target list so doctors it's beyond them being scared of getting kicked
off contract to run
these tests it's beyond them being scared of the insurance companies cutting
their reimbursements or not
allowing them to participate in their plans they're scared for their liberties
and their freedoms if if they
get on the wrong side of an insurance carrier they're going to use the justice
system as an attack dog to
take you out and this is the honest to god truth i saw people who wer