Name: EMDR - The Trauma Therapy Based on Eye Movements
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Description: Watch the stand-up comedy video 'EMDR - The Trauma Therapy Based on Eye Movements' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2024-01-19. Transcript available.

Watch the stand-up comedy video 'EMDR - The Trauma Therapy Based on Eye Movements' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2024-01-19. Transcript available.

the Joe Rogan experience and I think trauma I think childhood trauma I think
childhood trauma kind of can can make you depressed yeah for sure yeah for
sure I think that especially abuse yeah abuse seems like the one that people
have the hardest time shaking because it's not that they weren't even it wasn't
even that they were ignored that someone preyed on them yeah and they gave
they have no self-worth they're beaten you know no self-worth and they know
that the younger the abuse or the neglect happened the more of an imprint it
leaves
because your brain is forming and it's fascinating stuff man but we have
neuroplasticity and you can go to therapy and EDMR is something I'm doing and
it's
incredible it's the only thing I've ever done that sort of works what is that
EDMR was invented by Francine Shapiro like in the 80s accidentally she's a
psychologist and now it's become sort of the gold standard for trauma treatment
and
PTSD and like vet hospitals and stuff and what it is is it's I ED it's I
movement
desensitization desensitization and reprocessing and so it involves moving your
eyes in a very specific way while you process traumatic memories yeah I'm doing
it
now it's crazy oh my god you're hacking your brain you hack your brain and you
get
into your subconscious like your REM sleep state and then you reprocess the
memories and when
you're there you start having vivid memories and then when you're done memories
start flying
in out of nowhere whoa how did you find out about this this is wild it was sort
of it was
interesting I was in LA right so I you know I have early childhood trauma and
then I've had
some traumatic things happen to me later in life and then the panic attack
started after I got shot
when I was in my early 20s I didn't know what they were back then like I just
didn't know what they
were so I just be having these panic attacks on the train just going like what
is happening to me so
I've been dealing with it for like 20 years and it would go away for periods I
have great periods and
then it would come back and and um after I had kids I think I called you I did
I spoke to you once and
you were very helpful but after I had kids it sort of triggered um a lot of
these feelings that would
come up out of nowhere and sadness I'd be looking at my kids and I'd get sad I'd
be playing with them
I'd get sad and I didn't understand it and then I'd be in a hotel room and on
the road and I just start
like panicking and be like what is this and so I was talking to my friend uh
Tracy Carnazzo um she's
she's a comic in New York she's funny and she's one of these Italian girls who's
just got a guy for
everything she's just you ask her anything she's like I know somebody so she
asked she was like how
are you and I just answered honestly I was like ah I'm just uh I did and I gave
her like a paragraph
and she was sound she was like it sounds like you didn't feel safe as a kid she
was like uh let me
get you in touch with this person who I'm friends with who does edmr and then I
got in touch with
this therapist and she's incredible and um I started the edmr journey and it's
been it's the only thing
I've done and edmr has a beginning middle and end it's not like you know it's
not like ad infinite it
just goes on forever it's like you're there to reprocess this trauma and so do
you do it in a
specific place I do it I do it zoom I love to zoom you zoom yeah so you zoom
with someone who guides
you through it is that how it works yeah and you do it how often I'm doing it
now twice a week but
you can do it once and how long is each session hour she'll go longer sometimes
though wild so what
what do you do you feel like the chemicals moving around in your brain while
you're doing this yeah
yeah you do and that's a big part of it is identifying the um the trauma in the
body and
trauma in the body and how it affects the body there's a book called um the
body keeps the score
by I think his name is Bessel he's a psychiatrist and he's he's responsible for
all these trauma
centers all over the country and so this this guy is doing it to this lady
right now he's going back
and forth with his fingers and she's following his fingers and so she's
supposed to be thinking about
traumatic memories then he'll bring up he'll take her back through the first
the first phase is like
identifying the trauma so it's a lot of talk therapy so you kind of you know
talk a lot talk a lot talk
a lot and then the therapist gets the idea of what you need to go back and
reprocess and new things
will come up when you go back and and um and then you'll reprocess it it's not
just hands you can do
uh you can follow a ball you can hold the buzzers in each hand it's about
stimulating both sides of
your brain yeah what's happening in mental health now is so fascinating because
when you parallel it with
like what happened in medicine right like we used to treat the symptom right so
if someone had a fever
they treated the fever but they didn't know what the cause was so they put you
in cold water or boiling
water whatever they did and then they found out about viruses and bacteria so
they started treating the
cause now in mental health you're you're starting to see that revolution
because of um you know the
advances in neuroscience where they can look at the brain and they can actually
see you know what parts
are responsible for what where trauma uh shows up in the brain they just did
another a recent study it
was a big study about how trauma is doesn't traumatic memories don't come back
as memories they come back
they light up in the part of your brain as if it's happening now which makes
sense we knew that
because you know when vietnam vets start bugging out and they're in the
supermarket or whatever
but they can actually see it now in the brain that the brain is processing it
as it's happening now
so um you know converging neuroscience and psychology and all the things that
they've known from all these
different advances and it's it seems to be in a place now where trauma is
becoming one of the things
that they focus on the most like early childhood trauma or traumatic events uh
in war obviously we
know that that's you know a big that's the the specific cause of what is
bothering those people
you know is what they've experienced and so now they're targeting the trauma
but they have ways to
treat the trauma with edmr with brain spotting it's called um you know a whole
bunch of these um tactics
that's really fascinating yeah it's really fascinating when you think like i
had this guy on the podcast
yesterday uh joe peiffer he's a mma fighter for the ufc and he had a terrible
childhood terrible
fucking horrible beatings just constantly it's just like heartbreaking to hear
the story but you gotta
it's just fascinating like as a human being like whoever you are were you
listening to this right now
you are the accumulation of your processing of every experience you've ever had
as much as we like to
claim autonomy we think on our own and we kind of do and there's that like
again there's definitely
chemical problems there's definitely people that just have a genetic defect
something just like some
people have diseases of all sorts of other parts of their body they get
diseases in the brain that's
fucking for real 100 but you're basically just an end product of experiences
and your interpretation of those experiences and the legend the lessons and the
the way you've
contextualized all those experiences and they're all in your head and that's
your map of the world
that's your map of the world so if you're in san francisco the yay we freed
palace like their map of the
world is fucked like their experiences like what what's got them to 2024 january
18th whatever it is
is this result sucks like this result sucks like this is terrible like you guys
are out of your
fucking mind you're wasting your time you're there's needles on your street you
guys are out of your
fucking mind what did you what do you do with this this result sucks but those
people are they could
have been in Wyoming as like hard-working ranchers the same human could have
been like a salt of the earth
fucking kevin costner yellowstone looking motherfucker it could have been the
same it's just your experiences
yeah it's just what do you what shapes you what directions do you go in what
when do you get
pushed down when do you get lifted up who gives you a hug who pushes you away
yeah and how does this how
does this play out yeah i don't think a lot of people know themselves because
you got to do all this
work to know yourself because your brain protects you in so many ways that you're
unaware of like um
they know in neuroscience like your brain usually when it's healthy works in
concert and sends information
to different parts of your brain to process it but when you have trauma or a
chemical problem or whatever
it is it doesn't work well and in traumatic uh experiences your your your neocortex
shuts off
and your limbic turns on and that's a there's a survival reason for that right
so if you're in a moment of
fight or flight you don't want to start reasoning you don't want to go like you
start philosophizing
you're just emotional you're dealing with your survival reptile brain and so it
actually shuts off so
people who have like panic and anxiety it's hard to reason your way out of it
because that part of
your brain is shut down