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the Joe Rogan experience and most people are just not that sophisticated when
it
comes to these things if they're betting using an app or something like that
betting online they're just doing it for fun they think they could win they got
a
feeling they want to bet their team they want to make the game more exciting
and
so those people are basically like very under they're very under research they're
very they don't have like the full grasp of understanding of the complexities
of
sports gambling because it's a lot more complex than I ever thought when I was
going over your stuff I was like oh my goodness like this involves so much time
so much time and read this is not a simple thing is like oh I follow sports I
think Kansas City's gonna win it is not it's complicated very very complicated
and to win at a level that you want at over your career and the numbers like
what
is the biggest bet you ever placed about four to a half million dollars on New
Orleans to to beat the Indianapolis Colts in the Super Bowl that's the biggest
bet I
replaced you win I did I wanted I got lucky and I want it you got lucky on that
one
well I yeah I mean anytime you win I mean I feel like I'm lucky I mean it Joe
the
world's made up of a lot of different kind of people as we both know and say
but no I
feel like I feel like anytime I want a bet I got lucky I mean because there's
you know but no I
want to bet and and and the reason I had such a big bet is what I do Joe is I'm
I make a line on a
game myself my prediction of what I feel like the differential should be
independent of what the
experience completely independent okay I don't even look at her line when I
make my line really
no that's that's high-level shit well that's all that's all I'm doing the same
thing they're doing
right I mean it believe me that the principles that I'm following and making my
line are the same
principles that the handicappers making them but it's Joe it's kind of like
making a cake you know
one guy might put a little bit more flour in than the other guy does and so
that's how we end up with
different you know lines different numbers so I make a line on each and every
outcome of the sports
sports that I'm involved in you betting this on the individual players their
overall career what age
they are how they've been playing this season who the coach is all the
different factors whether or not
there's in in player disputes in between players like there's a lot of things
to take into consideration
it's again I put it all in the book and and you're right there's a lot of
different factors that go
into that uh some more important others but there's a lot of factors and uh and
what happens is
the larger the differential between the number they make and my opinion the
larger bet I make there has
to be a minimum of a certain amount of of separation or I won't make a bet but
the larger the difference is
between my opinion and their opinion opinion the larger bet I make so I'll just
give you a rough
example let's say the NFL and let's say let's say I would have to have a
minimum of say a point and a
half differential from the line they make from the line I make a point and a
half two points well that
would I would make I would bet one unit okay that would be the smallest bet I
would make but for each
half point you would have out so if if I made the line on a game six and they
had an eight I would bet
one unit if they made it eight and a half I would bet two units they made it
nine I would bet three
units they made it nine and a half I would bet four units so made it ten I
would bet five units well
the New Orleans game you asked me about which I couldn't believe is a Super
Bowl game and this type
of year we never get this kind of differential but I had like a seven point
differential between the
line I made and the line they made they made Indianapolis seven and I thought
the game should
be pick them and when I saw the line I couldn't believe it I went back I said
well maybe I made a
mistake here went back redid it redid it no pick them so that's how I ended up
with such a large bet
when you go through something how much time are we talking like if you're
placing a four million dollar
bet on a Super Bowl game how much time are you researching well but that time
of the year I mean
all of our research is done I mean it's this last game here okay the only
changes you're going to make
from the last games that these two teams played during the Super Bowl is okay
are there any players
injured that didn't you which you have to account for and you know clearly if
they're playing on a
different surface or something maybe then you know then the teams normally do
it's very small I mean
the second the game's over we can have the line on the next game within six
hours it's not a problem or
less I mean unless it involves you know some injury or something that you know
may take us until we get
some more clarity on that but I'm going to know real close to where I'm at
frankly as soon as the game's
over almost within an hour or two now there's been some times over the years
where referees
specifically in basketball games have been caught doing things you know calling
penalties trying to
swing the game in favor of another team and they get caught for it and busted
how much do you think
that goes on today like how much do you think like referees are bought off or
maybe perhaps they're
betting themselves I don't think that exists at all Joe really and if it does
it's very very small but
it has been right but things have happened in the past and but uh but uh but
but you know who uncovered
each and every one of those gamblers people betting sports and bookmakers they're
the ones that made law
enforcement aware of these things uh because at the end of the day whether you're
a casino or whether
you're better the integrity of sports is the most important thing in the world
to you a good thing
about what's going on today there's probably uh more transparency in betting
today than there ever has been
all all of the legalized gambling has taken place they have everyone's account
information they know
everything you're doing and the other thing about betting on sports Joe unlike
say wall street it is a
small market much much smaller market than wall street so if you go out and you
make a sizable bet in
sports uh the line's going to move and uh it's it's impossible to hide it okay
now there's people such
as myself and I'm not the only one there's a lot of people in the sports
business if they see a line
on a game move a half a point a point or whatever they know who calls that line
to move 99% of the time
okay I'll give you an example the Arizona State situation that came up years
ago I don't know if you
remember that one or not it was their basketball team and they were fixing
games and then what happened
um there was a bunch of guys that came to Las Vegas and uh they bet on one of
these games the line moved
six or seven points I bet on the other side of it because you know uh the line
I make and of course I
had no idea that you know they were shaving points and I lost the bet well they
came back to town
uh a little bit later and they brought six seven guys and they were going to
all the different sports
books and they were betting and allow move six or seven points again game lines
on games don't move six
or seven points well the second time I didn't bet uh because and sure enough
they won the game by like
20 again when they came back the third time and but now I'm taping the games I'm
looking at the games
they came back the third time and they did the same thing well uh I called uh
uh Steve Ducharme who was
the head of game and control uh for the game and control board he was the the
law enforcement part
of game and control and told him what was going on and uh they dispatched some
agents they tried to
get these people to talk to them they left Las Vegas went back to Arizona
and then later on I think one of them got kind of caught up in a drug deal and
uh then it came out
they were fixing games and there were a couple players that were intentionally
throwing off
and uh they were fixing games and that's how that scandal came out you know I
guess so it was exposed
by gamblers oh it's by gamblers and how did you know that something how did you
know it wasn't just
luck well I mean Joe look this would be like tracking an elephant in the snow I
mean you got you got guys
who no one's ever laid eyes on and they come to Las Vegas and they bet they bet
on a game and they
move at six or seven points you know if you're a handicapper you know anything
at all about betting
sports if a line moves you know uh it it's and you're laying a second or third
point uh or what
you know you you better you better have a really strong opinion because they
move this line for one
reason uh it's it's it's to make it a lot less appealing to the person betting
on that team so when
somebody comes to town and they move a line six or seven points no better in
the world is going to do
that and in order to do that they they went to every sports book in town and
they just you know they
laid you know six six and a half seven seven and a half eight eight and a half
nine nine and a half ten
okay well because they were new to betting okay they knew they had they had an
edge because of what
they were doing but they didn't know anything about betting as a result you
know they created
something that was easy for anyone to see
i saw it again the first time i didn't know you know the exact uh uh you know i
didn't know exactly
who was doing it and i i bet on the other side of course i lost my money and of
course i came back the
second time i'd seen these things before and i didn't bet and then of course
you know we taped the
game we looked at it was pretty easy to see who was doing what they were doing
they came back the third
time did the same thing frankly you know to give it i mean these guys were
trying to break in jails what
they were trying to do anybody i mean they were anybody would do what they were
doing was just
stupid i mean anyone could see what they were doing so the only thing surprised
me it took three games
for someone to finally turn them in and i don't sports books i don't think they
ever turned them in
i mean i called the charm myself because again anything that involves integrity
of sports
they're affecting my business if people get to where they don't trust betting
on sports then
the limits are going to go down and it's going to reduce my ability to be able
to bet on sports
uh you know the other one you know with a referee the n the nfl referee gamblers
knew about that
eight months before he got busted by law enforcement people quit betting on the
games
yeah well sure i mean it wasn't they just suspected that the calls were bad no
well no what happened
anytime again joe because the market's so small okay think about the the new york
stock exchange or
or think about apple stock you could buy 500 million dollars with apple stock
and and the price on
apple stock would would barely move okay on on a nfl nfl on an nba basketball
game if you were to bet
250 000 on an nfl basketball game it would probably move a point and a half two
points
so and again the people taking the bet people such as myself and others if a
line moves on a game and
it moves like that and okay i want to know who better than that game if it's
another handicapper
or there's an injury out or there's something there that makes sense as to why
that game moved
then okay i understand it but if there's some mysterious person that's betting
a lot of money
on a game that hasn't been doing this for a period of time and then i'm looking
at an outcome of a game
that doesn't make sense uh if i tape it and and and i see you know something
that's out of the ordinary
about the way the game's being officiated or some players performance it this
is this stuff is easy
joe to see and you're not dealing with exactly you're not dealing here with
master criminals you're
dealing with people that frankly aren't very smart and a number i mean they
aren't very smart to be
doing what they're doing and the way they go about it they're even you know
about you know i don't
if you remember the thing years ago with hot rod williams i mean there's the
ones what was that thing
well it wasn't it was an nba thing also but all the ones if you go back and you
look at the last
five sports deals whatever they were small or big every one of them were
uncovered like that
and uh so you know i i did a it i did a pro i did an interview one time on 60
minutes in 2011 and i was
asked at the end of the interview which i had the most confidence in betting on
sports uh or investing uh
in stocks and my answer was i have a lot more confidence in betting on sports
uh for the reason
i pointed out uh it's it's a much smaller market but as far as as far as things
being on the up and
up i have a lot more confidence than that and i have way more confidence in
that than i do the other
well obviously you know it well well i not only know it well but i also if i
didn't know it well i
know how small the market is i know how transparent the market is and and if
someone goes in someone
goes in to try to bet on sports and you're trying to fix a game it's going to
be so obvious it's so
easy to detect and it's so easy to and today it's even easier and the good
thing about legalized sports
betting is it's so transparent everybody who has an account you know you take
all these young players that
haven't haven't you know they haven't been uh uh i'll call it school correctly
they haven't been
they haven't you know whether it be their teams or whomever they haven't
explained to them
you know the repercussions about betting on sports if they're a professional
athlete we've had some
here recently that you know basically these guys are kids joe they're kids they
don't know any better
and and someone should have sat down with them and explained to them the ramifications
of what they
were doing maybe they did maybe they didn't but the one we've had a few of them
out there now but
you know you've seen how quick they catch them because it's all transparent
they go in and make
these bets it doesn't take them any time at all to figure out who they are if
they're a football player
or whatever they're doing and it's been brought to the public's attention so
you know if it's that easy
to catch them somebody out there making large bets on something moving the line
substantially
uh and you don't know who this person is and you're looking at and they do this
more than one time or
two times and you're seeing an outcome of a game that doesn't make sense it isn't
going to take long to
figure this out

Gambling Expert on Betting $4.5 Million on the Super Bowl and Rigged Games

the Joe Rogan experience and most people are just not that sophisticated when
it
comes to these things if they're betting using an app or something like that
betting online they're just doing it for fun they think they could win they got
a
feeling they want to bet their team they want to make the game more exciting
and
so those people are basically like very under they're very under research they're
very they don't have like the full grasp of understanding of the complexities
of
sports gambling because it's a lot more complex than I ever thought when I was
going over your stuff I was like oh my goodness like this involves so much time
so much time and read this is not a simple thing is like oh I follow sports I
think Kansas City's gonna win it is not it's complicated very very complicated
and to win at a level that you want at over your career and the numbers like
what
is the biggest bet you ever placed about four to a half million dollars on New
Orleans to to beat the Indianapolis Colts in the Super Bowl that's the biggest
bet I
replaced you win I did I wanted I got lucky and I want it you got lucky on that
one
well I yeah I mean anytime you win I mean I feel like I'm lucky I mean it Joe
the
world's made up of a lot of different kind of people as we both know and say
but no I
feel like I feel like anytime I want a bet I got lucky I mean because there's
you know but no I
want to bet and and and the reason I had such a big bet is what I do Joe is I'm
I make a line on a
game myself my prediction of what I feel like the differential should be
independent of what the
experience completely independent okay I don't even look at her line when I
make my line really
no that's that's high-level shit well that's all that's all I'm doing the same
thing they're doing
right I mean it believe me that the principles that I'm following and making my
line are the same
principles that the handicappers making them but it's Joe it's kind of like
making a cake you know
one guy might put a little bit more flour in than the other guy does and so
that's how we end up with
different you know lines different numbers so I make a line on each and every
outcome of the sports
sports that I'm involved in you betting this on the individual players their
overall career what age
they are how they've been playing this season who the coach is all the
different factors whether or not
there's in in player disputes in between players like there's a lot of things
to take into consideration
it's again I put it all in the book and and you're right there's a lot of
different factors that go
into that uh some more important others but there's a lot of factors and uh and
what happens is
the larger the differential between the number they make and my opinion the
larger bet I make there has
to be a minimum of a certain amount of of separation or I won't make a bet but
the larger the difference is
between my opinion and their opinion opinion the larger bet I make so I'll just
give you a rough
example let's say the NFL and let's say let's say I would have to have a
minimum of say a point and a
half differential from the line they make from the line I make a point and a
half two points well that
would I would make I would bet one unit okay that would be the smallest bet I
would make but for each
half point you would have out so if if I made the line on a game six and they
had an eight I would bet
one unit if they made it eight and a half I would bet two units they made it
nine I would bet three
units they made it nine and a half I would bet four units so made it ten I
would bet five units well
the New Orleans game you asked me about which I couldn't believe is a Super
Bowl game and this type
of year we never get this kind of differential but I had like a seven point
differential between the
line I made and the line they made they made Indianapolis seven and I thought
the game should
be pick them and when I saw the line I couldn't believe it I went back I said
well maybe I made a
mistake here went back redid it redid it no pick them so that's how I ended up
with such a large bet
when you go through something how much time are we talking like if you're
placing a four million dollar
bet on a Super Bowl game how much time are you researching well but that time
of the year I mean
all of our research is done I mean it's this last game here okay the only
changes you're going to make
from the last games that these two teams played during the Super Bowl is okay
are there any players
injured that didn't you which you have to account for and you know clearly if
they're playing on a
different surface or something maybe then you know then the teams normally do
it's very small I mean
the second the game's over we can have the line on the next game within six
hours it's not a problem or
less I mean unless it involves you know some injury or something that you know
may take us until we get
some more clarity on that but I'm going to know real close to where I'm at
frankly as soon as the game's
over almost within an hour or two now there's been some times over the years
where referees
specifically in basketball games have been caught doing things you know calling
penalties trying to
swing the game in favor of another team and they get caught for it and busted
how much do you think
that goes on today like how much do you think like referees are bought off or
maybe perhaps they're
betting themselves I don't think that exists at all Joe really and if it does
it's very very small but
it has been right but things have happened in the past and but uh but uh but
but you know who uncovered
each and every one of those gamblers people betting sports and bookmakers they're
the ones that made law
enforcement aware of these things uh because at the end of the day whether you're
a casino or whether
you're better the integrity of sports is the most important thing in the world
to you a good thing
about what's going on today there's probably uh more transparency in betting
today than there ever has been
all all of the legalized gambling has taken place they have everyone's account
information they know
everything you're doing and the other thing about betting on sports Joe unlike
say wall street it is a
small market much much smaller market than wall street so if you go out and you
make a sizable bet in
sports uh the line's going to move and uh it's it's impossible to hide it okay
now there's people such
as myself and I'm not the only one there's a lot of people in the sports
business if they see a line
on a game move a half a point a point or whatever they know who calls that line
to move 99% of the time
okay I'll give you an example the Arizona State situation that came up years
ago I don't know if you
remember that one or not it was their basketball team and they were fixing
games and then what happened
um there was a bunch of guys that came to Las Vegas and uh they bet on one of
these games the line moved
six or seven points I bet on the other side of it because you know uh the line
I make and of course I
had no idea that you know they were shaving points and I lost the bet well they
came back to town
uh a little bit later and they brought six seven guys and they were going to
all the different sports
books and they were betting and allow move six or seven points again game lines
on games don't move six
or seven points well the second time I didn't bet uh because and sure enough
they won the game by like
20 again when they came back the third time and but now I'm taping the games I'm
looking at the games
they came back the third time and they did the same thing well uh I called uh
uh Steve Ducharme who was
the head of game and control uh for the game and control board he was the the
law enforcement part
of game and control and told him what was going on and uh they dispatched some
agents they tried to
get these people to talk to them they left Las Vegas went back to Arizona
and then later on I think one of them got kind of caught up in a drug deal and
uh then it came out
they were fixing games and there were a couple players that were intentionally
throwing off
and uh they were fixing games and that's how that scandal came out you know I
guess so it was exposed
by gamblers oh it's by gamblers and how did you know that something how did you
know it wasn't just
luck well I mean Joe look this would be like tracking an elephant in the snow I
mean you got you got guys
who no one's ever laid eyes on and they come to Las Vegas and they bet they bet
on a game and they
move at six or seven points you know if you're a handicapper you know anything
at all about betting
sports if a line moves you know uh it it's and you're laying a second or third
point uh or what
you know you you better you better have a really strong opinion because they
move this line for one
reason uh it's it's it's to make it a lot less appealing to the person betting
on that team so when
somebody comes to town and they move a line six or seven points no better in
the world is going to do
that and in order to do that they they went to every sports book in town and
they just you know they
laid you know six six and a half seven seven and a half eight eight and a half
nine nine and a half ten
okay well because they were new to betting okay they knew they had they had an
edge because of what
they were doing but they didn't know anything about betting as a result you
know they created
something that was easy for anyone to see
i saw it again the first time i didn't know you know the exact uh uh you know i
didn't know exactly
who was doing it and i i bet on the other side of course i lost my money and of
course i came back the
second time i'd seen these things before and i didn't bet and then of course
you know we taped the
game we looked at it was pretty easy to see who was doing what they were doing
they came back the third
time did the same thing frankly you know to give it i mean these guys were
trying to break in jails what
they were trying to do anybody i mean they were anybody would do what they were
doing was just
stupid i mean anyone could see what they were doing so the only thing surprised
me it took three games
for someone to finally turn them in and i don't sports books i don't think they
ever turned them in
i mean i called the charm myself because again anything that involves integrity
of sports
they're affecting my business if people get to where they don't trust betting
on sports then
the limits are going to go down and it's going to reduce my ability to be able
to bet on sports
uh you know the other one you know with a referee the n the nfl referee gamblers
knew about that
eight months before he got busted by law enforcement people quit betting on the
games
yeah well sure i mean it wasn't they just suspected that the calls were bad no
well no what happened
anytime again joe because the market's so small okay think about the the new york
stock exchange or
or think about apple stock you could buy 500 million dollars with apple stock
and and the price on
apple stock would would barely move okay on on a nfl nfl on an nba basketball
game if you were to bet
250 000 on an nfl basketball game it would probably move a point and a half two
points
so and again the people taking the bet people such as myself and others if a
line moves on a game and
it moves like that and okay i want to know who better than that game if it's
another handicapper
or there's an injury out or there's something there that makes sense as to why
that game moved
then okay i understand it but if there's some mysterious person that's betting
a lot of money
on a game that hasn't been doing this for a period of time and then i'm looking
at an outcome of a game
that doesn't make sense uh if i tape it and and and i see you know something
that's out of the ordinary
about the way the game's being officiated or some players performance it this
is this stuff is easy
joe to see and you're not dealing with exactly you're not dea