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Joe Rogan Experience #2113 - Christopher Rufo

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You were just telling me that Washington State recriminalized, or is it Oregon,
recriminalized
drugs?
Yeah, that's right.
This just came out the last week, but Washington State, rather Oregon State,
had pursued to
defund the police policy, the decriminalized drugs policy, and there's now this
dramatic
reversal.
Because guess what?
When you let people shoot up heroin on the side of the road, snort meth in
tents downtown Portland,
it actually is not good for society.
And there's such this dramatic pushback, and I was actually shocked to see it,
that Oregon
lawmakers, all Democrats, of course, said, you know what?
We've gone too far.
Let's bring it back to the center.
And I think that's something that's very good.
It's definitely very good.
It is a little shocking that they figured it out.
It just doesn't seem like when you go and drive through Oakland, for example,
it doesn't seem
like anybody's trying to put a cork on that.
They're just like letting it be insanely chaotic, like the areas where they
have the shantytown
set up and people have tents everywhere and these makeshift structures.
How?
At what point in time do you stop letting these open-air drug dens exist where
people are just
cooking meth in front of everybody?
That just seems so insane.
So it's nice to see that Oregon's like, hey, let's hit the brakes.
Yeah.
Is it all drugs now?
Did they just put everything in the same category?
Which is also quite insane.
Yeah.
I mean, no, it's not all drugs, obviously.
It just says it right here?
Yeah.
It says, the measure makes the possession of a small amount of drugs such as
heroin or
methamphetamine a misdemeanor, punishable by up to six months in jail, enables
police to
confiscate the drugs and crack down on their use on sidewalks and in parks.
But what about, what are the other, see, the thing is, it basically, what
Oregon did is
decriminalize almost everything.
The weird thing about drugs is you throw them all into one blanket.
You know, you throw, you cover them all with one blanket, drugs, because
caffeine's a drug,
alcohol's a drug.
There's a lot of drugs that we're accustomed to using and I'm not necessarily
in favor of
those being illegal.
And when you add in heroin and methamphetamine to something that we're already
accustomed to,
like alcohol or caffeine, it's like, what do, are we, you know, why are these
the same things?
Like, why don't you just individually say fentanyl is unbelievably bad for you?
Marijuana, not so much.
Let's, like, figure out which ones are okay and which ones are not instead of
just saying drugs.
100%.
I mean, you just have to do a really simple calculation.
You say, is this drug correlated with extreme social pathology?
Does it obliterate the individual?
Does it cause social problems, social chaos?
And then you could categorize them very simply.
Yes and no.
Okay, you have alcohol, caffeine, marijuana.
You can have a functioning society where those are used.
But you can't have a functioning society where people are foiling fentanyl.
And especially if you look at the cities, it's wrecked, these cities.
The big problem, though, is that the political left in the United States has
lost the willingness
and the capacity to say no.
This is something we've all seen.
You know, we're raised a generation of kids where, like, saying no and imposing
limits is something
that you can't do.
It's this idea of liberating ourselves from all limits.
But, you know, some limits are necessary.
Some limits are important.
And so I think we're starting to finally see the consequences of obliterating
limits.
And then now we're starting to say, you know, in a reasonable way, we should
start reimposing
some guardrails.
Well, that's one of the things you find out when you're a parent that seems
counterintuitive.
But one of the things you find out is that children are happier when you impose
limitations
on them, which sounds so crazy, but they are happier and they have less anxiety,
apparently.
Obviously, I'm not a doctor, because by having structure to life, it doesn't
seem like everything
is like if they're in charge, like, oh, my God, I'm fucking 12 and I'm in
charge.
I have no idea what's going on and I could stay out late all night.
The world's chaos, which it kind of is in some ways.
But by imposing structure on them, it gives them comfort.
And I find that's the case with human beings.
I find that the people that I know, even artists, even comedians and wild folks,
the people that
have structure in their life, like have families and children and have like
workout routines
or things that they enjoy doing on a regular basis that they're very dedicated
to, those
are the happiest people.
They're the healthiest people.
They're the people that seem to feel like there's a purpose to life.
The purpose is your loved ones, your family, your community, the people you
hang out with,
the stuff you like to do, whatever it is, pickleball, whatever it is.
That gives people like happiness and structure.
And this idea that having no limitations and complete freedom and you want to
be just able to
like fly away on a whim, like that doesn't promote happiness.
Like, what are you trying to get out of this life?
Don't you want it to be as enjoyable as possible?
We've all had bad times.
They suck.
We try to avoid those.
We try to have the good times.
But that can be applied to a society as well.
The way you raise children can be applied to a society.
Like you need structure, you need rules, you need love and compassion, you need
examples
of good behavior.
You need all of those things.
And when you let people fucking cook meth in the middle of the street, that all
goes out
the window.
Imagine being 12, driving by a fucking drug den every day on your way to school.
You're like, oh my God.
What do I have to look forward to?
Yeah, I mean, that was my life and my experience and observation.
We moved out of Seattle in 2020.
My wife, at that time, two kids.
Because of this precise phenomenon, the politics had gone totally sideways.
Well, Seattle in 2020 was particularly insane.
Particularly insane.
That was the area, what was it called?
The glory of the Chaz.
Chaz, that's right.
Chaz, but I remember our oldest son was in kindergarten, first grade at the
time, and we would be walking
to school a few blocks up, and we'd have to be avoiding schizophrenics,
avoiding tents,
avoiding people shooting up, avoiding people just shitting in the street.
Walking.
Walking.
Just walking.
Yeah.
It's so sketchy.
And so, you know, you're trying to kind of navigate your kids around.
There was a homeless encampment about 100 yards away from the school with
probably 40 or 50
guys cooking drugs, stealing property, causing trouble.
And then you talk to the administrators at the time, say, hey, this is a
problem.
I don't accept this.
I don't like this.
And they say, oh, well, you know, we have to be compassionate to our houseless
neighbors.
It's like, no, we don't.
This is a danger to kids.
And it got so bad that they were teaching the kids what to do when they found
hypodermic needles
in the playground.
Oh, my God.
This is a problem.
I don't want this as a parent.
I want you to prevent them having to pick up hypodermic needles.
And, you know, and it's like a group of people that are so it's like compassion
also has
to be limited.
Yeah.
You have to have compassion within reasonable limits.
And well, you're also dealing with people that will just burn it all down.
If you just allow you say arson is no longer punishable, they'll burn all the
houses down.
Yeah.
These are insane people.
They don't have anything.
Why wouldn't they just burn it all down just for funds?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so hard to understand how it got this far.
You know, and I love when they use terms like the houseless.
Like, you already have a word for it.
Yeah.
Like, stop trying to dress it up with a new word.
You already have a word for it.
The word, like, this one's been driving me fucking crazy lately.
Minor attracted persons.
Yes.
Um, I saw two politicians in two different speeches talk about protecting minor
attracted
persons.
You're talking about pedophiles.
That's what we're talking about.
It must be that these people have no children.
It must be.
I don't know.
If they do, they're monsters.
This idea that you are going to minimize the harm caused by evil criminals who
steal children's
lives, ruin their lives forever, and you're just going to call them a minor
attracted person
and try to say that it's an identity?
To what, for what reason?
To what end?
Like, why would you want to do that?
I mean, the end is, uh, it's not polite to say, but it's quite clear.
You look at even something that has been propagandized at length, drag queen
story hour.
You say, wait a minute, let's just break it down to the basic facts.
These are adult men dressing up in women's clothing.
Yeah.
Dancing and performing for other people's children.
That's like, should be a red flag for people, but you, they've couched it in
this language,
like you're talking about euphemisms, uh, very, very soft sounding words,
tolerance, inclusion,
but you're concealing from people the fact that it's like, ah, actually, no,
this is kind
of uncomfortable.
Um, and like, I wouldn't want to do that.
Well, not only that, do you want to talk about sex with other people's young
children?
No, it's like the thing you'd want to avoid, like most in life.
There's no reason to talk to them about that.
There's no reason they're not interested in it.
They're little kids.
And they're not interested.
It's the adults that are interested.
So the question is why, why are adults so interested in this?
What is the ideological goal?
The personal goal?
Um, and I find it, they're, they're influencing children because like all
groups, as much as
people hate to hear this, everyone wants you to join their group.
It is a natural human instinct.
The idea that that would not apply to gender identity, that that would not
apply to sexual
orientation is crazy.
It applies to phones.
It applies to like people have Android phones.
They're like, dude, switch over.
Look, you can use the S Pen.
Dude, you can switch over.
Look at my AI features.
Dude, you don't need a high message.
You know, there it's with everything.
And if you don't think that happens with sexuality or with gender, you're out
of your mind.
It's a natural human characteristic.
Why would it be, why would it be absent there when it's present in literally
everything?
People use Windows computers.
Shit on people use Apple computers.
You should just try Windows, man.
There's so much more variety.
They want you to join.
Yeah.
They want you to, they want you to be a part of their church.
They want you to be, move into their neighborhood.
I'm guilty of it too.
I got a bunch of people to move to Austin.
For sure.
It's like, it's a thing that people do.
It's a thing that people do, especially if they found something that's awesome.
But this idea that a guy with fucking heavy makeup on dressed like a tart.
Like if that was a woman, I'd be like, what's wrong with that lady?
She's not dressing like a teacher.
This is crazy.
What is she doing?
Why is she dressed like that?
Is that a costume?
Is she in a play?
She's not in a play.
Okay, cut.
Yeah, let's pump the brakes on this one.
That fucking lady's got to be insane.
Does she have any kids?
Well, actually, she doesn't even have a vagina.
You know, she's got a penis.
What?
Hold the fuck on.
Now we're getting to a whole nother level of this.
What are we doing here?
What's going on?
But that opinion is completely normal, completely mainstream, held by virtually
everyone.
Yes.
But people are silent about it.
Right.
Because they've been stigmatized into believing if you offer any criticism of
the ideology,
of gender theory, or the practice, you are somehow a bigot.
That you're somehow homophobic.
You're definitely far r