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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2147 - Mike Baker' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2024-05-08. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2147 - Mike Baker

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Mike Baker, it's very important that I ask you about this.
What's that?
Because I know you're an expert on conflict.
How do you feel about the Kendrick Lamar and Drake beef?
Man, I am so glad you asked me about this.
Because my boys, you know, I got three boys.
And all three of them have mentioned this in the past few days.
And they want to talk about it.
So Scooter will say, God, did you hear what he said?
And I was like, honestly, no, I haven't.
But they've all brought this up.
I am completely unfamiliar with the, although it sounds like the old days.
East versus West, right?
I think it's a personality thing because one of them is Toronto.
So it's actually America versus Canada.
Oh, well, that's right.
There's a real conflict there.
And which one is the little guy?
Kendrick Lamar.
Kendrick Lamar, that's right.
So that's what my middle boy Sluggo said.
I think he's like five foot one or something.
He's not a big fella.
Him and Drake have been going at it now.
Four songs apiece.
So eight songs dedicated to beef.
I think that's fantastic.
I think we need more of that, right?
It's better than the Hamas conflict.
Security guard injured in shooting outside Drake's home in Toronto.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
God damn it.
Was it a drive-by?
Yeah, and the security guard was outside.
Said he was shot, I think, unconsciously taken to the hospital.
Oh, my God.
Don't think he died.
See, it was-
Do not know whether the shooting was related.
Well, take a fucking guess.
You think it was or wasn't?
A drive-by might be related?
Well, that's when shit gets scary, when people start shooting at each other.
No, when it was just-
Because I think it was Slugger who told me that one of them-
I think it must have been Drake who was talking about his-
He dissed him by talking about his size seven feet or something, right?
And that's fine.
I think it's great.
If everybody would just like-
If the Israelis and Hamas would go after each other in song-
Battle raps.
Yeah, battle raps.
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, dance off.
That's how they should do it.
Yeah.
It's hilarious, but everybody's invested in this beef.
My oldest daughter and my wife were in the car this morning,
and they were having a conversation.
These two grown-ass women having a conversation about who's the superior rapper.
And they felt that Kendrick is a better lyricist, although Drake has more hits.
Drake has more hits.
Started from the bottom, now we're here.
I mean, look, he's got some bangers.
They both have bangers.
I love Kendrick Lamar.
I just wish these two would hug it out.
Yeah, well, now it's moved on to the firefight stage of the battle.
Yeah, well, now they're shooting.
What did you say, Jamie?
Kendrick's first big point was that it's 20 versus 1 because Drake has all
those ghost riders
helping to make all these hits.
So that's an allegation in the rap community, apparently, that Drake hires
ghost riders.
I don't know how I feel about that.
So I feel like the same way I feel like if I find out someone, there's a
banging song.
Like Beyonce has a song out.
I don't get upset if she didn't write it.
Do you get upset?
It's mostly only in rap that people are like, you didn't write that.
Like comedy.
Like comedy.
Like the same thing with comedy.
Country song, they don't care.
Country, they do care.
Not really.
Yeah.
I mean, I was going to say, yeah.
Guys like Zach Bryan shine through because they write their own shit.
But it's very collaborative.
The country is hugely collaborative.
Sure.
Tennessee Whiskey, right?
Tennessee Whiskey was a song.
Oh, Chris Stapleton.
Yeah, but he didn't write it and it came out.
I thought he did write it.
No, it came out.
I think he performed it and someone else wrote it.
It came out years before.
He wrote a lot for other people, though, correct?
Yeah, but yeah, I just like, I don't even think, there's tons of songs like
that.
They write for each other.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of those guys that like, Chris Stapleton made a living for
a long time
as a writer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because people looked at him like, come on, man, you ain't sexy.
No.
Meanwhile, they were wrong.
They were wrong.
And it's a very, it's a smaller community, right?
Yes.
You know, the country music community.
And it does tend to get more crossover between musicians and writers, right?
Yes.
I mean, a lot of them will start out, like you said, as writers.
There you go.
Tennessee Whiskey, a country song written by Dean Dillon and Linda Hargrove.
Yeah, David Allen Coe.
It was originally recorded by artist David Allen Coe for his album, the same
name, peaking
at number 77 in the Billboard Hot Country Singles in 1981.
Wow.
Yeah.
George Jones, 1983 version of the song, was included on his album Shine On and
reached
number two on the Hot Country Singles chart.
What great artist.
George Jones.
Did you hear that Randy Travis is using AI now to make new songs because he was
paralyzed
by a stroke, but because they could take his voice, which is an iconic voice,
Randy Travis
has an incredible voice, but because of AI, they can get recordings of him
singing and he
could plug it into AI and he can still make songs.
And you know how much of a recording they need nowadays to actually mimic the
entire range
of a person's voice?
It's 30 seconds.
Less than that now.
Really?
Not that long ago it was 30 seconds.
Now you need a snippet, and by a snippet I mean seconds.
And you can then mimic that voice through a range of emotions and scenarios.
It's stunning what they can do.
There was a guy who just got fired because he made a fake AI recording of a guy
he worked
for saying a bunch of racist things.
And the guy, like everybody was attacking him and got in trouble, and then they
somehow
another did an analysis on it, and the director did it to the principal of the
high school.
Right.
He was about to get fired, so he's like, "Instead of me getting fired, watch
this."
Right.
He thought he was being slick.
But he's a dummy, and he didn't know that they can tell, they can analyze audio
recordings
and tell whether or not they're real.
How do they do that?
How can they tell?
Well, that one specifically, I think someone else was like, it was a
conversation between
two people, and they both were like, "I didn't hear that, and I didn't say that."
So they were like, "All right, well, what could have happened?"
I think they got the guy's computer to find out what he did.
So he must have had a secret recording, and then in that secret recording, he
took it
and then threw it through AI and had him say a bunch of N-words in there.
Yeah.
There's two aspects to this whole thing, right?
There's the detection portion of it, right?
Can you detect something like this is fake?
Right.
Whether it's audio, whether it's video, a combination of both.
And then there's the other side of it, which is trying to stay up with the
capabilities of
those that are trying to do these identity thefts or whatever you want to call
it.
And that's sort of the proactive effort to lock down recordings, right?
And there's some interesting work being done in that space where if you film
something, say
you go to a campaign rally and you film that campaign rally, there are a
handful of companies
out there figuring out that you can essentially watermark it, right?
So that it cannot be fucked with, right?
And that you can determine if it's an actual recording or not.
And that's really, I mean, you think about how much disinformation is roiling
around out
there now.
Yeah.
Right?
So, but detection, it's important, but it's not enough anymore.
So where the focus has to be is on ensuring that anything that's being recorded,
whether
it's a body cam for a police officer, whether it's maybe someone's at a protest,
right?
And they're a protester or they're on the other side, whatever.
To be able to film something and then ensure that it's accurate and true going
forward, right?
And that's a really important part because you can't, the detection side of it's
important,
but it can't stay up with the developments of all the folks out there, all the
criminal
gangs, criminal elements, and whether it's state-sponsored or not, that's out
there, you
know, just with this disinformation effort.
So I mean, it's a fascinating, it's a fascinating problem, but people are
getting duped constantly.
It's a fascinating problem that is only going to get worse.
As these new versions of AI get rolled out, it's going to be more and more
difficult to
detect what's true and what's fake.
And people can do it on their computer so easy now.
This one of Biden, he's walking and he pauses to talk to people and they CGI'd
shit like
that he's pooping himself.
I saw that.
See that one?
The one where he kind of stops.
He pauses.
Like he's got a fart.
Yeah.
You just see him poop himself.
And people are out there saying, look, that's a mid-stage dementia stance,
right?
That's what they're saying now.
They're talking about that.
I don't know.
I don't know about that, but look, there's-
Well, something's going on.
There are, if you talk about just, what do they call it, face swap, right?
So, they can take a photo of somebody now.
They can take a little snippet of somebody talking now.
And there are over a hundred apps out there readily available to anybody, right?
That can basically do this face swap technology and put somebody else in there.
And criminal elements are doing it all the time, right?
So, if I'm a fraudster, and I send a note, say, to somebody in procurement, I
say, "Hey,
you need to send a check for $100,000 to our vendor, right?
Here's the details."
Well, they might have protocols in place of the company that says, "Okay, well,
first,
this is a large transaction.
I better call the finance director," right, or whomever.
They've got a way that they can figure out how to spoof all of that, right?
So, you could be talking to whom you think is the finance director, but they'll
actually,
the face swap technology that's available out there, right?
It's somebody having a conversation.
You think it's the finance director, but they're talking to you and-
Completely different person.
Completely different person.
Their voice gets changed.
Yeah.
Their face gets changed.
They look exactly like you.
Yep.
So, I could use face swap technology that exists today.
And with all the recordings that we have of you from this show-
Oh, fuck yeah.
Yeah.
100%, we could have you saying a bunch of shit that you never really said.
And some shit that I probably did say over the years, yeah.
Probably shit.
That's a lot of shit.
Yeah.
There's some shit.
But, yeah.
Let me ask you this.
Yeah.
Like, when they're doing this, all this face swap technology and all this
different stuff,
like, what can be done to try to keep ahead of it to make sure, like, from a
national security
perspective?
How do you-
Yeah.
How do you keep-
How do you know?
Right.
Uh, there's a couple parts to that.
One-
Like, if Netanyahu all of a sudden has some crazy speech-
Right.
And says some wild shit, and like, we're going to war.
Like, hey.
Yeah.
Is that real?
But they, I mean, again, part of it is like, there's a handful of companies out
there.
And they will, they're able to, again, record.
And it instantly, as it does it, it embeds information, right?
And embeds specific time, location, you know, your coordinates-
And it'll all be in the recording.
And it's in there, right?
And then it's sort of a blockchain system where then, on the other side, the
person can look
and go, yeah, this is accurate.
This is correct, right?
But people have to be able to take that, and that's, I guess, where I'm going
with this.
People have to be able to take that step to ensure that what they're watching
is accurate.
So, when people say, well, how do you prevent this?
How do you keep this from happening?
The unsatisfactory answer, to a large degree, is it comes down to individual
people, right?
Ever