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Joe Rogan Experience #2166 - Enhanced Games

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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Gentlemen, good to see you.
Good to see you.
Please introduce yourselves.
I'm Dr. Aaron D'Souza, president of the Enhanced Games.
And I'm Christian Angermeyer, co-founder of the Enhanced Games.
And this is a very exciting idea.
And how did this come about?
What was the impetus behind this?
I've been studying the Olympics and the Olympic movement my entire life.
You know, I'm 39 years old.
When I was an undergraduate at university, it was just after the Sydney
Olympics.
And, you know, it was always something that inspired me.
And I thought to myself, you know, I learned some key statistics.
44% of Olympians admit to using banned performance-enhancing drugs within the
last year,
according to research commissioned by the World Anti-Duckers.
44%.
44%.
And the other, you know, probably lying.
Are losing.
Exactly.
And so, you know, and then I learned that the average American Olympian only
earns $30,000 a year.
And I thought to myself, there's something really wrong in the system.
And instead of, you know, trying to reform it, let's take a blank slate of
paper and invent the third Olympiad from scratch.
Well, the Olympics is kind of a scam, because it generates billions of dollars
in revenue, and the people that are there to perform make almost none of that.
That's correct.
Actually, the International Olympic Committee doesn't pay any of the athletes.
Incidentally, they may get some money in sponsorship or from their National
Olympic Committee.
But ultimately, the billions of dollars in revenue come into the Olympics, and
none of that goes to the athletes.
It gets wasted building stadiums.
It gets wasted paying officials.
And we thought there's a way to do a better, more honest model that inspires us
to believe in the future of science and technology in the 21st century.
And you could do it apolitically, too, if you chose to.
You know, are you guys doing it by nation, or are you doing it just like human
beings?
Human beings.
Better.
Yeah, I think the era of nationalism is over.
Look at the Eurovision Song Competition recently.
What is that?
Oh, it was when, you know, Israel was performing, and there were huge protests
out front of the competition.
It's a very European thing.
It's called European Song Contest.
Song?
Contest.
A song contest.
Yes, it's every country, every year, makes a very cheesy song.
Oh, God.
I actually like it.
So let's not go there.
I'm kind of a fan, being German.
It's a big thing in Europe.
But unfortunately, it was super fun and campy.
There's actually a Netflix movie about it.
Like, not a documentary, but a fun movie about it.
Is this a review, Jimmy?
Well, that is one of the winners.
Most 10 recent winners of the Eurovision Song Contest.
She's amazing.
She's amazing.
It's Noreen.
She's amazing.
Okay.
It's very catchy songs.
I don't know what your song is.
She's crawling around with her butt up in the air.
Well, it's very campy.
I guess.
But there is even a cool Netflix movie about it.
But long story short, unfortunately, this was the first year where it became
really political, which I think music shouldn't be.
Yeah.
Right.
And which was sad.
Yeah.
But we will not be political.
That's the short version.
We're not going to go per country.
Yeah.
It's the best human being, the fastest one, highest jump or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just so many countries use it as a political tool.
You know, and they cheat.
Like, I'm sure you guys have seen Icarus, right?
Yeah.
I was with Brian Fockel a couple of days ago.
He's great.
And that documentary is amazing.
What, I mean, what incredible, like, circumstances, like the way it all played
out, where he's in the middle of doing this documentary about doing a race
naturally and then doing a race enhanced.
And the guy he contacts, in the middle of all the Sochi Olympics crap, that guy
winds up fleeing the country, spilling the beans.
Yeah.
And now he's hiding.
He's a witness protection.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Still in this country, hiding from Russian killers.
Yeah.
And that's right.
And I think, you know, the reality is that performance enhancements are
everywhere.
6.3% of men in the Western world have used anabolic steroids at some point in
their life.
75% of men who regularly go to the gym are interested in using steroids.
And so instead of doing it underground, in secret, let's do it out in the open
with clinical supervision and safety.
But what is, what are the legal ramifications of this?
Because we were talking about this in the podcast.
We were talking about the different drug schedules on the podcast yesterday.
And steroids are scheduled, right?
It's like Schedule 3.
Yeah.
It's a Schedule 3 substance in the United States.
There are 23 countries where steroids, anabolics are legal, including in the
United Kingdom for personal use.
And so let's first distinguish between what is legal and what is banned.
And so in Olympic competition, they always say, oh, these drugs are illegal.
But actually, they're banned in Olympic competition.
Because there's a lot of things that are, you know, like peptides and things
along those lines that are illegal in the Olympics.
That are banned in the Olympics.
But they're not, they're not.
Yeah.
Banned.
It's really important because that means the Olympics decided as a, as a sort
of private organization, we don't want that.
Right.
But you can take it.
Right.
Yeah.
So legally you can take it.
So like TRT, for example, is a perfectly legal substance.
It's FDA approved.
It's delivered under clinical supervision.
But if you used it, you would be banned from Olympic competition.
Right.
Right.
So the vast majority of compounds that are banned by the World Anti-Doping
Agency are actually perfectly legal.
You know, the UFC had a guy that accidentally took something that had DHEA in
it, a real high-level guy, Khalil Roundtree.
And he was supposed to be fighting Jamal Hill in three weeks.
And he found out that there was DHEA in it.
He informed the UFC, told them.
And DHEA isn't even performance enhancing.
And they banned him for two months.
So he got two months.
And so he missed out on like the biggest opportunity of his career.
So if you go into your local GNC, 25% of the goods will contain substances that
are banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency.
25%.
Yeah.
So these are just off the shelf.
Right.
This is not black market.
This is what you can buy in your local shop.
And then, of course, there's tainted supplements, which is a real problem
because a lot of these supplements, they use another party that puts them
together for them, generally in other countries, and a lot of them in China.
And these people are also making different things with these vats.
They don't clean them properly.
And then they mix the new stuff in it, and you easily get contamination.
It happens all the time.
Exactly.
And, well, that's the excuse that the Chinese government used about the 23 swimmers.
Are you aware of this situation?
What's this?
So 23 Chinese swimmers tested positive TMZ, which is a heart medication, and
they claimed that this was because of a…
When was this?
How long ago?
Oh, just six weeks ago.
Oh, really?
It came out six weeks ago.
Oh.
The incident was earlier.
Yeah.
So 2021.
But, yeah, the New York Times reported it.
Received no sanctions.
13 athletes won other than the Olympic Games in Tokyo, won six medals, three of
them gold.
Huh.
Well, they definitely did something during Beijing, too.
Yeah, well, the Chinese clearly were doing this intentionally, and the World
Anti-Doping Authority, because of pressure from the Chinese state, covered it
all up.
And that's not my accusation.
That's the accusation made by Travis Teigard, who's the CEO of the U.S. Anti-Doping
Agency.
Okay, so the premise is, let's cut the shit.
Yeah.
You guys are…
There's been people that do…
It's like the argument for Tour de France, right?
Like, Tour de France, when they stripped Lance Armstrong, the next person that
had not ever tested positive was 18th place.
Yeah.
And if you look at the 100-meter time, it's the fastest man in the world.
Seven of the top 10 fastest 100-meter runners in history have had a doping
violation.
And the only one that's not in the top five is Usain Bolt.
Wow.
So it's just a scam.
It's a scam, yeah.
And we've been hearing that for years about sprinters, particularly sprinters
in other countries, that they're enhanced.
And especially if, like, your national pride is involved, and they know that
there's ways that you can kind of finagle things and get around them,
and you hire doctors to test people and use masking agents or whatever the hell
you do.
In the UFC, they don't even let them rehydrate with IVs anymore.
Yeah, same thing in cycling.
So if you take more than 100 milliliters of IV within 12 hours, that's
considered a banned substance.
Well, you can't do any IVs in the UFC.
Really?
Yeah, they won't let you because just because of the fear of masking
performance-enhancing drugs because you could flush your system.
But the problem with that is, like, IVs are good for you.
Like, this is really stupid.
Like, if you can make sure that a person is just doing IV vitamins, I mean, if
your random testing is effective, you should just do that.
Like, don't stop someone from doing something that's going to make them
healthier while they're in a business that's about as dangerous as you can get
without people shooting at you.
Yeah, and so the solution is not to do drug testing.
It's to do health testing.
Like, we want to make sure that our athletes are healthy and safe to compete.
So we do cardiac screenings, MRIs, blood work to measure their biomarkers to
ensure that they're within healthy ranges.
And that's the core difference, right?
The drug testing apparatus at the Olympics is about fairness in competition.
It's not about the health and safety of athletes.
Here's the question.
If you open up the gates and say you're allowed to take whatever substances you
want at whatever levels you want in order to compete at your very best, how
close to redlining does a person get?
You know, especially if you're involved in something that requires strength and
explosive energy.
Like, we've had one of the things, the UFC at one point in time had
testosterone use exemptions.
And you were allowed to get those if your testosterone was at a low enough
level.
The problem with that was that was not thought out at all.
You can beat that test in a heartbeat.
Just stay up all night.
Stay up all night, eat 15 cheeseburgers, and jerk off three times, and you're
good.
You're going to be at, like, 200.
You're going to be like, oh, my God, you're sick, Bob.
But also, there's another problem is that people that have a history of anabolic
steroid use, generally, they've wrecked their endocrine system.
And particularly back in the day, the early days of MMA was all enhanced.
And if you go and watch Pride, for instance, like Pride, which was the big show
in Japan, it was this enormous organization in Japan that kind of fell apart
because the Yakuza was involved with it, and they went bankrupt.
There's a lot of craziness involved.
But at one point in time, they were selling out, like, these 90,000-seat arenas
in Tokyo.
It was nuts.
And everybody looked like a superhero.
I mean, just fucking jacked.
Just giant jacked guys beating the shit out of each other.
And everybody who went over there will tell you, like, the contract literally
specifically stated in capital letters, we do not test for steroids.
They will encourage you to do steroids over there.
They want you to look good.
They want you to fight at your best.
They're like, we don't care what you take.
Just go over there and go ham.
But it comes down to a fundamental philosophical question.
Shouldn't an individual with free and informed consent, an adult, be able to
make choices about their own body?
They should.
But the question is, when is it not fair?
Right?
It's the epitome of fai