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Joe Rogan Experience #2172 - Sebastian Junger

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As I was saying, you're one of the last of the Mohicans rocking that flip phone.
Yeah, that's right. I'm proud of it.
Do you text people?
Yeah, yeah, I text.
Do you do the do-do-do-do-do, or it takes a bunch of times?
Well, it's something called T9. It's predictive texting.
So, you know, it gives you a bunch of alternatives.
You just have to do it all on a keypad with your thumb rather than with an
iPhone with you have the full alphabet.
But I bet that battery lasts like a week.
I don't even travel with a charger, man.
Really?
Yeah, I mean, unless I'm gone for a week.
But if I'm just gone for a couple of days and I don't have any long
conversations planned, I don't even bother.
Wow.
Yeah.
All emailed, everything's handled at home.
Plus.
All on the laptop, right?
Yeah, plus chicks do get mad.
They do?
It's crazy.
Like, what kind of chicks are you hanging around with?
Savages.
No, at one point I was at CNN waiting to go on, and these two young women kept
looking at me.
You know, this was like 10 years ago.
So I plausibly could say to myself, well, maybe I still got it, right?
Like, who knew?
Right?
And then one of them noticed that I had noticed them looking at me, and she
goes, oh, excuse me, sir.
We can't believe that you have a flip phone.
So I was like, well, that's the end of an era.
10 years ago?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
10 years ago, there was a few people out there that were hanging out.
My friend Ari still had a flip phone 10 years ago.
Yeah.
The only people I know now are you and David Tell.
So you're in good company.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
It's cool.
I'm telling you, it's cool.
It's coming back.
It's the next big thing.
Well, I know a lot of people, you know, they switch to what's called, I think
it's called
a simple phone.
Is that what it's called, Jamie?
What is that thing called?
What's that?
Air phone?
No, the little tiny, the one that's, it just gives you nothing but like text
message.
I think you can get music on it too.
I think it's called a simple phone.
It's like, do you read on a tablet, you know, like one of those Kindles?
I don't.
Well, the great thing about those is they have this white paper looking
interface.
So it doesn't look like a screen.
It looks like paper.
Right.
Yeah.
That's what this little phone looks like.
And it's the same sort of, that's what it is.
Light phone.
Yeah.
That thing.
So it has basically the same thing as your phone, except you could text like a
normal human
and it'll play music and has notes.
It gives you directions.
Right.
That's not bad.
I mean, what I, what I don't want is to get sucked into the algorithms of
social media and
all that garbage.
You don't want to get into the algorithms on men.
You don't want.
I have seen more people fall off buildings, get hit by cars, get shot, get
stabbed.
And just not participate in their life.
Right.
Yeah.
And if nothing bad happens, you're still, I mean, listen, man, I have two, I
have young
children.
I have a seven year old girl and a four year old girl.
And we're at the playground and I swear there are kids who fall and I, and I
got to go
kids.
I don't know.
I got to go over and like dust them off and comfort them because the mom or dad
doesn't
even know.
Cause they're on their phone.
Yeah.
Right.
That's not parenting.
I mean, like what do you, what, what do you have kids for?
Especially playgrounds, man.
Playgrounds are still a little sketchy.
You know, my daughter, when she was six, she broke her arm at school on a
playground.
Really?
Actually, she was a little older than six.
She might've been eight.
But yeah, it's a playgrounds are fucking scary, man.
You know, you're, you're swinging around and you're playing and kids fall the
wrong way.
And, and we're on the Lower East side in New York city.
So it's sketchy in some other ways too.
Like, you know, you got to be awake, right?
You got to be alert and just like, and not only that, but you had kids.
Like, what do you do?
Like, just enjoy this while you can.
Cause right.
Right.
This is a Tik TOK video more interesting than your, the human that you made.
Yeah, exactly.
You guys made humans.
They're the right.
I mean, that still freaks me out to this day.
Even when they're mad at me, you know, I'm like, I just can't believe you made
you.
I made you.
And now you're mad at me.
Like, well, how does that work?
Like, yeah.
I have all girls.
So they're mad at you for stuff like doesn't even make sense.
Like you're like, okay.
How old are they?
The youngest right now is 14.
Oh, wow.
So I got seven of four.
So, right.
So that thing's coming.
Okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
I got a 14 or 16 and then a grown one.
I got a 27 year old.
Because, you know, I've had girlfriends that were mad at me for things that I
didn't think
made sense.
And I was like, okay, well, that's all right.
That's because you're crazy and, you know, whatever.
But actually, like that might be in my future.
Yeah.
They're just different.
It's just women and girls are just different.
And me, you know, I think the universe did me a solid by giving me only
daughters.
Yeah.
Me too.
Because you have a different perspective.
Like if I had a son, I'd be like, I got to keep this fucking savage out of jail.
Because I'm passing my genes.
That kid's got to go to the gym.
I mean, I got to get you into a jujitsu gym early.
Like you got to start doing challenging things early.
And then also you have to deal with the fact that you have a successful father
and that puts
a lot of pressure on a kid because they, you know, a lot of kids, they try to
measure
up to their parents or compete with their fathers in some sort of strange way.
So you have to mitigate that in advance and tell them that you're there for
them.
You're on their side.
You know, it's like, there's a lot with kids.
But with girls, they're so different, man.
I didn't, I just, I don't think I understood until I raised children.
I just didn't understand how different they are.
Yep.
I, listen, I agree.
And I'm, I have two girls.
I'm, I'm thrilled.
I mean, it's the best thing that ever happened to me in my life that I'm
meeting my wife.
Like that, it just incredible and, and partly because they're girls and not
boys.
I don't, I have nothing to learn from boys.
I already know what that's about.
I am one, right?
Yeah.
But girls, it's just like, it's amazing.
It just, and it wakes up some part of you that was dormant and you didn't know
was there.
It's just like, it's an amazing feeling.
Dave Chappelle said to me once that not only did it change the amount of love I
have, but
it changed my capacity for love.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a great way to put it.
It's just a completely different experience.
And I have friends that are just avowed bachelors.
I'm never getting married.
I'm never having kids.
Fuck that.
And I'm like, I get it.
I know if you've had a bunch of bad relationships, you have a bunch of people
that are annoying
and they're constant drama and dilemmas and all these different things.
But man, you're missing out on a different, different phase of life, a
different experience
of life.
That's just, it's so humbling.
But you've got to meet the right person, right?
Yeah.
I mean, if you're not with the right person, I imagine being on top of that,
that's hard
enough just on its own.
On top of that, parenting with the wrong person must be a freaking nightmare.
Yeah.
You've got to fucking go to dinner with the wrong person.
It's a nightmare.
A nightmare.
Just dealing with nonsense.
Yeah.
Especially if you're not the type of person that handles nonsense so well.
Yeah.
You know, it's just, ugh.
Well, what I do, for a variety of family reasons, I flatline.
Like if someone's coming at me with something that doesn't make sense and they're
really upset,
I just go, I just sort of emotionally flatline.
I get super rational and just zero Kelvin like nothing, right?
And which is a kind of a good place to be because it's not escalatory.
Yeah.
But it's all, but I've come to find out that's also exceedingly provocative to
do to someone
who's upset.
Oh, so they try to like get a response out of you.
Yeah.
And they think that your non-response means you don't care.
Ooh, that's a problem.
And then you're just so screwed.
That's also a problem with emotional manipulation where you realize that this
escalation of emotions
is really just to incite a reaction.
It's not the real feelings.
Right.
That's right.
That's right.
Which is why it's so exaggerated.
And I think I'm doing the relationship a favor by, you know, it was like
somebody's got
to stay sane in this room, right?
Right?
Or it's going to, the cops are getting, you know, whatever.
Right, right, right.
So I'm like, all right, I'm going to flatline.
The only way to do this, because you're making me really angry right now, is to
flatline and
feel nothing.
Yeah.
I'm going to do us a favor by doing that.
I'll be super rational and calm and blah, blah, blah.
But I didn't realize like that's completely inflammatory also in a different
way.
So there really isn't a good choice until that person figures out how to
emotionally regulate.
Yeah.
The good choice is get the fuck out of Dodge.
That's a good choice.
That's right.
Stay rational and calm as you can until you can abandon that relationship.
Yeah.
Unless that person has a like, just a complete understanding of what went wrong.
And apologizes and realizes like, oh, I'm being fucking crazy.
I knew a guy who was, I won't name him, his older brother.
They're both sort of pretty well-known writers.
And his older brother was in a bad relationship of that sort.
And they were walking through, I think it was Paris.
They were visiting Paris and all their stuff was at the hotel.
This is before cell phones.
This is in like the early 90s, late 80s, something like that.
And they're walking through Paris and they stopped to look, she stopped to look
at some clothing in a shop front, you know, the window, through the window.
And it took him some steps to realize that she had stopped and he had kept
going.
And he looked at her and he looked down the street.
He was like, this is my chance.
And he just started sprinting.
Oh, my God.
And he sprinted all the way to the hotel, paid the bill, left 500 bucks on the
bed, threw his stuff in his suitcase, out of there, straight to the airport.
And that was the last time they ever saw each other.
Wow.
It was that bad?
It was that bad.
The pressure that he must have been feeling that allowed him to make that
decision.
Like, he must have just been in hell.
I don't think he was just a dick.
He might have also been a dick.
But I think one of the things that was going on, because I've, you know, I've
been in relationships that were pretty tough, is that you can't even have the
breakup conversation because it goes full nuclear.
Right.
So you don't, you don't know what to do.
Right.
And you got to flee.
I support him.
I support him.
I mean, if he's a rational guy, and he's never done that before, that seems
like, if that's his move, that maybe, you know, maybe it's you.
And then he, right, and then he met the right gal, and they had a family, and
he's a great dad, and, you know, blah, blah, blah.
So it's not like he was just a congenital asshole.
Right.
Right.
Like, but that was his move.
In a split second.
Wow.
Split second.
I'm out of here.
That's crazy.
And no cell phones, of course.
So there's, now you just get, you know, you'd be getting speed dialed over and
over and over again.
Right.
Wow.
So he never saw her again?
No.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
That's wild.
Boy, that must have been a mess.
I love that moment where he looked back like, oh, she's, oh, she's in front of
the store.
And he just ran.
I have a 20-yard head start.
That is so crazy.
That's such a, I don't support it, but I get it.
Yeah.
Like, I've never been that bad, in that bad of a situation, but I've known
people that
have.
Yeah.
You just got