Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2180 - Jordan Peterson
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2180 - Jordan Peterson' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2024-07-25. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2180 - Jordan Peterson

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan
podcast by
night all day you don't use headphones huh messes up my hair good to see it
what's going on your
your coat today every day is a new one yeah well I've got this suit maker LG FG
Dimitri the crazy
Russian and he you know pays attention to what I'm doing and makes me the suits
that he thinks are
suitable and I wear it extravagant though like sometimes like one half of the
suit is one color
yeah it looks like you're getting bored you just want to switch it up he sends
me these damn things
and I get them and I think there's no way I wear that there's no way I'll wear
that and then I put
it on I think huh I like that yeah yeah yeah and Tammy puts up with it so is it
everyday suits
now with you so pretty much I'm in a suit pretty much all the time you know
there's a reason for
that well the original reason was because probably because my father he was a
teacher and he always
wore suit even in the 70s when that started to become you know like 1950s thing
and I asked him
one time why he did that and he said it was to show respect for his students
and then when I was a
professor well when you start to be a professor you're not that much difference
in age from your
students to begin with it's a good way of laying out a demarcation and that was
helpful that's useful
you know people like to know how the hierarchies are delineated right
professors like to think that
they're everybody's buddy but that's not the right relationship and so that was
helpful and then when I
went on tour in 2018 you know I realized that I was going to speak live in
front of several hundred
thousand people over the course of the tour and I thought you got to think when
you have an opportunity
like that that if you had the least amount of sense you'd pull out all the
stops so I bought some
expensive suits and then one of the things that happened in consequence of that
was that people
started to come to the lectures in suits and so about I'd say about 40 of the
audience dresses formally
and lots of the young guys who come they tell me when I meet them afterwards in
the meet and greets
for example that they bought their first suit to come to the lectures and so
you know I wouldn't have
ever expected that and then Dimitri showed up about two years ago with this
portfolio of suits he designed
one for each of the rules for my first book and he put the rule underneath the
collar at the back and
designed the lining custom lining on all the suits as well and so I gave him a
crack at it because he put
so much work into it and and that worked out real well he's very very creative
yeah that two uh color suit
there's lamb's wool on one side and goat's wool on the other and it's a heaven
and hell suit so
uh huh yeah no kidding hey this is covered with iconography um christian or uh
catholic and orthodox
i've got one of each and uh that's because i was out on tour with my new book
for my new book which
is called we who wrestle with god which we will talk about today i hope so how
does how does one wrestle
with god do you wrestle with god with every word
so what does that mean well look man well you know look what here part of the
reason that you're so
successful in my opinion is because you actually say what you think like you're
not putting on a show
actually you have no reason to put on a show you put on a whole bunch of shows
and they've already
been successful you know when you're actually asking the questions that are
genuine questions and
people can trust you because of that and that means that you're letting the
words emerge as they come
to you and each of doing that with each word that's a decision you know because
you can use your language
to manipulate and you can use your language to for your own say hedonistic
purposes or to gain power
or you can just say what you think every like all of those different choices
are a decision that's a
wrestling that's a moral decision and it shines in every word and so it's it's
super important that's
part of the reason why in the christian canon the word is the basis of reality
right it's the force that
it's the process that generates the order that's good out of possibility and
chaos right and so that's
and israel the word israel means we are we who are we who wrestle with god so
that's the chosen people
and so what that means at a deeper level even is that if you're genuinely
wrestling with your conscience
then you're someone who's chosen by god and i think that's that's right that's
accurate it's
interesting what you just said one of uh terence mckenna's lectures he talked
about a very profound
psychedelic experience that he had where he was given this revelation that the
world is made out of
words that everything is made out of words he had just some sort of a profound
understanding
of what words really mean well how much of the reality that surrounds you has
been
what would you say uh has emerged out of the realm of possibility because of
what you've said
a lot and you have this huge influence on the world that's all a consequence
all all almost all a consequence of what you've said and so there's an insistence
in the judeo-christian
canon that whatever that the capacity that words have to shape possibility is
akin or identical to the
process that generates reality itself and i think that's true that's that's why
in the opening chapters
of genesis were described as formulated in the image of god or like a microcosm
of the process that
gives rise to order itself it's a very different view than the than the bottom-up
materialistic view
let's say of the of the enlightenment in the scientific world it's a different
way of looking at things
it's the notion that what is in front of you is a field of indeterminate
possibility it's got some
implicit structure as the scientists insist but it's it's open and you grapple
with it like you grapple
with your dawning conscience in the morning consciousness in the morning what
confronts
you in the morning is a field of possibility and you approach that with a a
certain kind of orientation
and you use your words and your linguistic capacity to think to shape that
possibility and if you do that
properly then you make this is the genesis one insistence again you make the
order that's good or
very good and that depends on your orientation so in the sermon on the mount
for example which is an
instruction manual christ tells his listeners how to orient themselves in the
world properly so he says
first aim with all your heart at the highest good you can imagine now you'll
get better at that as your
vision clears but that's the orientation to do what's right now you might say
like pontius pilot said well
what is right what is truth but most people know the difference between right
and wrong you know at
least step by step what would move you forward and upward so you orient
yourself to the highest possible
upward place then you make the assumption that other people have the same
intrinsic value that you do
so that's your initial aim and presumption and then you pay attention to the
moment and that's
well that's that's often the statement that gets christ confused with the hippies
you know to
consider the lilies of the field who don't toil or spin
but that's not the instruction the instruction is to aim up with everything and
then
having that firmly in mind to pay attention as much attention you as you can to
each moment to allow the words to come
to you that best suit that upward aim not to subordinate your language to your
own
machinations or manipulations or your own hedonistic desire but towards what's
right and if you do that
then what emerges out of possibility is akin to the garden to the original
garden in
in genesis 1 and it's the order that's good truth truthful language brings
about the order that's good and that's
well i that's a very accurate way of portraying the role consciousness plays in
bringing about reality
so and that's a it's not that that viewpoint by the way isn't limited to the judeo-christian
canon you see the same thing in the taoist representation because in the taoist
world you have a domain of order
that's the black serpent and you have a domain of chaos sorry i haven't
reversed the domain of order
is the white serpent and the domain of chaos or possibility is the black
serpent in the taoist image
the two snakes head to tail and your job is to walk the line between them and
you can tell when you're
walking that line because that's where things are maximally meaningful and so
that's another element
of this vision which is that if you orient yourself with upward aim and you straddle
the line between
order and chaos then things become maximally meaningful around you so and musk
you know i just did a
podcast with elon musk and he talked about resolving his existential crisis the
existential crisis that he
experienced when he was about 11 or 12 it was a crisis of faith essentially and
the way that he
resolved that and then motivated himself so intensely was by understanding that
if he pursued the path of
the of the expansion of knowledge that that would be intrinsically meaningful
that's the path of growth
that's the path of adventure all of that it's aligned with what matures you and
makes you more
responsible and sets the world in order and that that the instinct of meaning
signifies all that
and so i've written a lot about that in in this new book we we wrestle with god
and that's what i've
been lecturing about in 60 different cities walking through these biblical
stories um one by one partly
because we have this wrestling match going on in our culture let's say between
the nihilists and the atheists
and the and the true believers you might say and one of the faults of that war
is that no one stops to
elucidate or delineate exactly what it is that we're arguing about so you have
people like dawkins they
parody the traditional conceptions of god a superstitious being nothing more
than a defense against death
anxiety or the opiate of the masses the old man in the sky the conceptualization
of god in the old
testament and the new testament is unbelievably sophisticated and to reduce it
to that kind of
parody is a stunning disservice doc is an odd duck he's an odd duck because i
think he knows also that
there is some value in psychedelic experiences but he's scared to have them and
he won't look through
galileo's telescope yeah but you know he's had major health crises right didn't
he have some sort of a
stroke or something i don't know i don't think he did i believe he did i
believe he had some a major health
crisis it's like how much time you have left you know like what are you going
to do you're going to
just not try it forever you're just going to dismiss everything forever and i
feel like people that
dismiss things like that this reductionist perspective you're essentially
saying you have the answers
and to dismiss the whole question of god or of whatever you want to call it
higher power a creator of
the universe the universe itself as a conscious entity whatever it is to
dismiss it just because you're
trying to decipher the writings of fairly comparatively unsophisticated people
because we're talking about
people from many many thousands of years goes without access to the information
we have today and then
you're also dealing with the fact that many of these stories were of an oral
tradition for over a thousand
years before they're ever written down so to just dismiss that as superstition
and silliness without any
curiosity about the root of these things why they resonate with people and to
just say that this is
superstitious nonsense that people choose to believe in and this reductionist
perspective of the known
reality that we currently exist in it's it's it's a foolish way of interfacing
with something and it's
shocking when a obviously brilliant man has a foolish way of interfacing with a
very complex situation
well it's esp