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Joe Rogan Experience #2201 - Robert Epstein

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The Joe Rogan Experience.
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And we're up.
Hello, Robert.
Good to see you.
Hello, Joe.
You look a little stressed out.
I am stressed out.
In fact, are we recording?
Yes.
Okay, then I want to make a special request.
Okay.
You can kick me out if you like.
Why would I do that?
Because I need to have a meltdown.
I would like to have a meltdown right now on your show.
You want to have a personal meltdown?
Yes.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay.
I've never heard anybody plan for a meltdown before.
Well, I need to do this and I think this is the right opportunity.
Okay.
And I don't know what I'm going to say.
Okay.
But I am definitely going to meltdown.
Okay.
Okay.
So, I am completely fed up.
I have worked day and night.
I work about 80 hours a week.
I'm directing almost 40 research projects.
I've been working really hard for maybe 45 years.
And the last 12 years where I've turned my eye to Google and other tech
companies have turned into, for me personally, a disaster.
So, before I started studying Google, I had published 15 books with major
publishers.
Since I've started studying Google and other companies, I can't publish anymore.
I used to write for and actually work for mainstream news organizations and
media organizations.
I was editor-in-chief of Psychology Today for four years.
I was an editor for Scientific American.
I wrote for USA Today and US News and World Report and Time Magazine.
But in 2019, after I testified before Congress about some of my research on
Google, President Trump tweeted to his whatever,
millions of gazillions of followers, basically some praise for my research.
He got the details wrong.
But then Hillary Clinton, whom I had always admired, chose to tweet back to her
80 million Twitter followers.
And she tweeted that my work had been completely debunked and was based on data
from 21 undecided voters.
I still have no idea where any of that came from.
Probably someone from Google, because Google was her biggest supporter in 2016.
And this was 2019.
And then that got picked up by this machine.
I'm told it's called the Clinton machine.
And the New York Times picked that up without fact checking.
And then a hundred other places did.
And I got squashed like a bug.
Squashed.
I had a flawless reputation as a researcher.
My research reputation was gone.
I was now a fraud.
A fraud.
Even though I've always published in peer-reviewed journals, which is really
hard to do.
And there was nothing I could do about it.
And all of a sudden I found that the only places I could publish were in what I
call right-wing conservative nutcase publications,
where I've actually made friends over the years.
I've made friends with them, but that's beside the point.
I was crushed.
And not only that, I've been discovering things.
I've made at least 10 major discoveries about new forms of influence that the
internet has made possible.
These are controlled almost entirely by a couple of big tech companies,
affecting more than 5 billion people around the world every single day.
And I've discovered them.
I've named them.
I've quantified them.
I've published randomized controlled studies to show how they work.
Published them in peer-reviewed journals.
We just had another paper accepted yesterday.
And I've built systems to do to them what they do to us and our kids.
They surveil us and our kids 24 hours a day.
Google alone does that over more than 200 different platforms, most of which no
one's ever heard of.
People have no idea the extent they're being monitored.
They're being monitored when they have Android phones.
They're being monitored even when your phone is off.
Even when the power is off, you're still being monitored.
How do they do that?
Well, because remember when we could take the batteries out?
Yeah.
And then at some point they soldered them in?
Yeah.
Because they soldered the batteries in, even when you turn the phone off, it's
not off.
It's easy to demonstrate.
It's still transmitting.
Or it'll transmit the moment the power comes back on.
It's still collecting data.
So, what am I trying to say here?
Then my wife was killed in a suspicious car accident.
This was also shortly after I testified before Congress in 2019.
Right before she was killed, I did a private briefing for Ken Paxton, the AG of
Texas, and other AGs at Stanford University.
And one of those guys came out afterwards and he said, "Well, based on what you
told us, Dr. Epstein," he said, "I don't mean to scare you," but he said, "I
predict you're going to be killed in some sort of accident in the next few
months."
So, I told you this before, when I was on before, and obviously I wasn't killed,
but my beautiful wife was killed.
And, you know, her vehicle was never inspected, forensically, and then it
disappeared from the impound lot.
I was told it was sold to some junk company in Mexico.
And that is one of now six, six incidents, six, of violence against people who
are associated with me over the past few years.
The last just happened a couple of weeks ago.
What was that one?
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Well, this last one is kind of weird and creepy.
And then I was at a meeting in Dallas, I think it was.
Oh, no, no, no.
It was up in Monterey.
And it was with General Paxton and then with some of my staff.
And one of my staff members sitting next to me, she all of a sudden just
brushed her hand against my computer case.
Which is, that's my computer case.
Okay.
And she screamed.
And we all went, "What?
What happened?"
And she goes, "Look."
And there was a needle sticking out of the computer case, sticking out of the
computer case, which is impossible.
And it was going a half inch into her thumb.
It had gone through the end.
And, of course, I'm thinking, "Oh, that's awful.
But maybe you just saved my life.
Maybe it's, you know, it's got some sort of weird poison on her.
It's like a Putin thing.
And it's got, you know, radioactive substances or something."
I'm trying to joke around.
But, meanwhile, she was terrified.
How did a pin get...
And, by the way, I have a picture of the pin.
It's really creepy.
I've never...
So, when you're saying a needle, you're not saying like a syringe?
You're saying a needle like a sewing needle?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
None of us has ever seen a needle like this needle.
It's about two inches long.
The end is like it's been sharpened.
Okay.
You can see it sharpened.
And at the end where there should be a hole for thread, there's no hole.
Okay.
I don't know what it is.
But we've had worse incidents, too.
I'm just saying this happened to be the latest.
But that's in your computer bag?
Was your computer bag ever out of your care?
Well, not that I noticed, but...
But, I mean, if somebody wanted to harm you, a little needle, it's not really...
Oh, I don't think that's someone wanting to harm me.
What do you think that is?
Well, if it's anything, it's someone wanting to scare me.
And the fact is I have been scared and so have a lot of my staff.
I have...
This summer we've had 26 interns from...
They come from all over the country.
23 of these people who are volunteers.
And fantastic young people, extremely smart, you know, helping me run almost 40
research projects.
And there is, you know, we take precautions and there is some fear.
And one of these young men who's done superb work, he asks that we take his
name off of everything.
You know, he didn't quit, but he's just saying...
Right.
Because there's...
Sounds reasonable.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, there have been a number of incidents.
And if I were...
Did you ever hear of John Katsimatidis?
No.
Okay.
He owns a ton of supermarkets in New York.
He also owns WABC New York.
But I was at a luncheon with him.
I shouldn't do this on the air.
I shouldn't do this.
But he actually said, to make a long story short, that if he were Google, he
would kill me.
He said it straight out.
But yet, you're still alive.
Well, I'm alive, but I'm in rough shape.
Because, you know, what a push comes to shove here, I have been making
discoveries that are
really startling.
And they've gotten worse and worse and worse.
And since I was last with you, which was two and a half years ago, we've made
probably
five or six, seven more discoveries.
They get worse each time.
And we've done something that I was speculating about doing when I was here,
which was building
a nationwide monitoring system to surveil them the way they surveil us and see
what content
they're actually sending to real voters and to real kids.
So let's break this down because I think we're getting a little in the weeds
here.
Let's explain to people that don't know what you're talking about, what your
research is about.
Because most people are not aware.
And one of the major issues that you have discovered is the curation and the
purposeful curation of information through search engines.
So most people that are unaware think that when you do a Google search on
something, say if you want to find out about a Kamala Harris rally or a Trump
rally, that you are just going to get the most pertinent information in the
order in which it's most applicable to your search.
But that's not the case.
The case is everything is curated and if you want to find positive things about
someone who they deem to be negative to whatever ideology they're promoting, it
will be very difficult to find that information.
If you want to find positive things about someone they support, they will be
right up front.
If you want to find negative things about someone they support, they will be
very difficult to find and you will be inundated with positive things.
And what you have found is that this curation of information from searches has
a profound effect, especially on the casual voter, on the low information voter,
a profound effect on who gets elected.
And it's tantamount to election interference.
Is that fair to say?
It's fair to say that's where I was two and a half years ago.
We have gone so far beyond that because it's not just search results.
It's search suggestions, which we're capturing now 