Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2213 - Diane K. Boyd
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Joe Rogan Experience #2213 - Diane K. Boyd

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience trained by day Joe Rogan
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night all day what's up how are you I am great long flight in from Montana but
I'm great thank
you well it's very nice to meet you and I really enjoyed you on Steve Rinell's
podcast oh good oh
good you got to watch it yeah Steve well Steve made the introduction yeah he
told me I have to
have you on because he knows how fascinated I am by wolves so I'm really
excited to talk to you
thanks and I'm excited too because I thought well you got we're both hunters we're
both dog lovers
you got an interest in wolves it's all good how did you start getting
interested in wolves and start
working with wolves well I grew up in Minnesota and probably tell from the Fargo
accent but I grew up
in Minnesota and back in the 60s and 70s when I was thinking about a career
Minnesota was the only state
in the lower 48 that had wolves with the exception of a few like 25 maybe an isle
royal a couple here
there in Wisconsin and so I was interested from the beginning with that and
then when I went to the
University of Minnesota Dave Meech who was like the god of the wolf world his
office was on my campus
so I just stopped by and kept bugging him I wouldn't I wouldn't go away like a
good parasite persist persist
why wolves why were wolves so interesting to you you know I'm just I'm kind of
a wildlife person they're the ultimate in a
really wild and smart animal they're a carnivore they're social like people and
I think I was denied having a dog most of my life going up till I was about 15
so I had this
this passion for canines in general mmm I love dogs I do too I love them and I
love wolves I'm so fascinated by them and I'm so interested in the whole
history of them in this country how they were sort of eradicated from most of
the western states and the reintroduction of them so you were there for all of
it right so when you first started they had pretty much been wiped out except
as you said in Minnesota you said Idaho's that was the only other place that
had them or no I'll
I do I do too I love them and I love wolves I'm so fascinated by them and I'm
so interested in the whole history of them in this country how they were sort
of eradicated from most of the western states and the reintroduction of them so
you were there for all of it right so when you first started they had pretty
much been wiped out except as you said in Minnesota you said Idaho's that was
the only other place that had them or no I'll Royal which is an island in Lake
Superior it's actually technically part of Michigan
Michigan they walked over on the frozen Lake Superior ice in the late like 1949
50s early and they stayed and they they got seated there and they had endless
amount of moose to kill and eat so they were kind of a wolf paradise with that
and is it still like that there yes in the populations of wolves and moose go
up and down because you know in nature nothing is here we always wanted to be
here but it's always doing this right and yeah they're doing there and then
interestingly when they when they arrived they migrated on their own power
there was very little immigration there was a couple of wolves documented
showing up here and there but apparently genetically there was no influx of new
genes so the wolves that came and went didn't breed and eventually they became
so inbred they started having physical anomalies and eventually just a few
years ago four or five years ago they got down to just a father daughter team
and only two wolves left and it was
over and so they wouldn't breed because they have they don't breed close
relatives generally so they just did a reintroduction to IO oil too that's been
relatively known just a handful of years so they had to reboost the population
if they wanted to keep going or wait for the lake to freeze again which may or
may not happen in our lifetimes you know
you know. So when they reintroduce them, this is one of the sticking points
about the reintroduction
to Yellowstone. A lot of people that were against it were saying that they reintroduced
a different
size wolf, that they reintroduced wolves from Canada. Yeah. Is that true? Sort
of? No. So in my
book, I've got a chapter called Slaying the Super Wolf. And so people call
these wolves
super wolves because they say that they're not native. They're Canadian super
wolves and they
weigh 170 pounds and it goes on and on and on. But I documented a wolf that I
caught in the Glacier
Park area, Wolf 8551. And we just had VHF collars. We didn't have satellite
collars in those days. And
she hung around for a while and then she just disappeared. And seven months
later, the British
Columbia Environmental Ministry game warden called me. He says, we got one of
your wolves killed.
Do you want to call her? Yes, please. Where is it? Puscupe. I said, oh, where
is that? Well,
it turns out that is 540 miles north of Glacier Park in seven months. So we
didn't know if the guy,
a farmer shot it in July. If they hadn't shot it, we would never have known
what happened to her.
But if she would have gone south instead of north, she'd have been about 100
miles south of Yellowstone
Park. So clearly they have the ability to disperse that far. The other
interesting thing about that
wolf is when she went north, they got the reintroduced wolves from two areas,
from Hinton in Alberta and
Fort St. John's in British Columbia. And she dispersed past the Hinton
population and ended up almost at
where the Fort St. John's wolves were. So this little wolf, 80-pound wolf,
showed us that it's one
continuous population from Yellowstone almost to the Yukon. It's connected
because it's a walkabout for a
wolf. It's not a big deal. We just didn't back then. We didn't have the tools
to document kind
of those long dispersals. But I just read this week that a wolf that showed up
in Colorado that was
shot this year, they just did the DNA on it apparently pretty recently. And it
was from the Midwest.
Think about that. To Colorado.
Think about that. To Colorado. Wow. Yeah. So Midwest like Wisconsin? Yeah.
Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan. It just said the Great Lakes region. It didn't
identify because they're all kind of the same. But it was not
it was not a Western wolf. It was not from Wyoming or Montana. Really
interesting. Is there any speculation as to why she went so far north?
No. So she was originally from a northern population. The wolf that I'm talking
about. Yes. 504. Yeah. She was born in Glacier Park. We caught her
first as a pup. So we know where she was born. We know the den. And then at
about a year and a half of age, almost two, she dispersed that far. And she
didn't have to go that far. I mean, if she wanted to find other wolves and
start a pack or join a pack, she could have gone any direction 50 or 100 miles
and found other wolves. You know what? If you tell me why wolves do what they
do and I'll buy a lottery ticket. I mean, I don't know how these things work. I
just don't know. So is that common?
That they would travel that far? It's becoming more and more common. So now
that we have satellite collars, we've been using those for years. We can track
them without having to stay in touch physically with them. In the old days, we
just had VHF collars and you had to physically
be there within range, like from an airplane or track them. But now that we've
got satellite collars, I mean, my gosh, we've got wolves going from Washington
to Montana. And one of the wolves from Wyoming went all the way down to Arizona
to just north of the Grand Canyon.
Wow. With the satellite collar was tracked. And then it turned around and
started home and it got shot in Utah.
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doing this,
and you track them how long do those collars batteries last well sadly for the
vhf collars
the wolves generally die before the collars do because wolves don't live very
long and
an average vhf caller lasts about four years an average satellite caller
one to two years and i don't understand why the technology is not
better to prolong some kind of a new battery because once you put all the
trauma of going
through the wolf with a helicopter and catching it or whatever you'd think they
could get some
kind of a super battery that would last a long time probably too heavy heavy
yeah and they're you know
wolves are on average 100 pounds and the batteries are pretty big but i'm
waiting for elon musk to
develop a super radio color battery well they're pretty close to developing
some pretty spectacular
battery technology i just was reading about that yeah yeah they're trying to
implement it in
automobiles they're going to be able to do it i think i believe samsung is at
the forefront of that
ah yeah you know because obviously they make batteries for their phones and
electronics and
things along those lines yeah yeah isn't it a hydrogen battery or something
crazy i do not know
i was just reading i'm sorry i don't remember but yeah um so so they're wearing
this heavy collar
and they they're good for about two years and a wolf in the wild lives how long
on average uh that's a
always when i do have a talk i ask the audience who how long do you think the
average wolf lives so if
you guess from the time they're visible from the den emergence like you start
to see them at four weeks
and a few die before that until they die do you want to take a a guess i would
be cheating because i
listened to the podcast okay i think it was 4.3 years yeah dr randall got that
i think it was i was
shocked i thought they would live older because you know an elk you know like a
bull elk like if you
shoot a mature one they're seven eight years old something yeah i mean i shot
one that was 11.
you did i bet the antlers were getting smaller by that yes yeah they were and
the teeth were worn
down almost nothing they're not they're not evolved to live that long right
they just aren't they
usually die sooner because they they burn up so much energy in years of mating
and breeding that they
get worn down and then you know they die but the wolves i mean in a zoo or a
captive situation they
can live to be 15. like a dog yeah like a yeah but they're that's extraordinary
i think the longest
i had a wolf a wild wolf that i knew her age because i caught her as a pup and
we we i captured recaptured
her and we tagged her 12 years that's extremely long for an old wow 12 years in
the wild yeah there's
a few in yellowstone that i got that old we had one of mine that dispersed to
idaho and he kind of
interesting i caught him in 1990 and he dispersed about a year later on his own
went to idaho in the
middle of the frank church river of non-return wilderness there were no other
wolves at that
time and he just hung around we'd see him once in a while by himself he was a
big male when i got him
he was 111 pounds but this animal had to survive by killing animals alone you
think about that's crazy
trying to pull down an elk with your teeth is it because the old males don't
get accepted into a
new pack he went to where there weren't any wolves interestingly but he