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Joe Rogan Experience #2214 - Shane Smith

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
What's up?
How are you?
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
What you been up to, man?
That's a loaded question.
I'm doing a podcast now.
You are doing a podcast now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When did you start?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A couple months ago.
What made you want to do that?
Just got tired of being on the outside?
Looking in?
That's it.
Yeah?
You actually, I'm going to paraphrase you, so you've got to tell me the exact
quote.
Okay.
But you said COVID was a fucked up time, and I went in thinking that vaccines
were the pinnacle of human technology
and came out thinking that the moon landing wasn't real and Michelle Obama's
got a dick.
And I was like, I was me.
During COVID, I became obsessed with social media and X and just looking at
shit and whatever.
And I'm like, you know, what's true?
What's not true?
Like, what's, what, like, because everybody's speaking so forcibly.
This is one question I wanted to ask you is, you talk to all these dudes all
the time.
One of the things I missed, like, I would be, I would be talking to people and
be like, oh, this is going on Afghanistan.
And I'd be like, oh, I was just there.
That's not what's happening.
Or, you know, this is happening as an actor.
Oh, I was just there.
I love talking to people.
I love meeting people.
And I love sort of knowing stuff.
Like, you can just say, well, I'm going to go there.
I'm going to figure it out.
Right.
So I saw all this stuff on social media, and I was like, wow.
You know, there's all this stuff.
Like, but no one's really going after it and saying, like, as an investigative
journalist saying, well, what's real?
What's not real?
What's true?
What's not true?
Right.
You are.
You're getting in there.
There's a few people doing it.
Yeah.
They're all investigative journalists.
They're all independent.
Yeah.
They're all completely outside of any kind of Washington Post, New York Times.
Yeah.
Which is the only way to do it.
It's the only way to do it.
It's impossible to exist in mainstream media and be legitimate now.
There's going to be.
A hundred percent.
There's going to be guardrails.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
There's no way.
But you talk to everybody, and that must be fascinating because you get the
inside track.
Like, your brain is like a wealth of information.
Yeah, it's like I had an unexpected education.
Yeah.
You know, like an unanticipated, unplanned education in all sorts of things.
Yeah.
And these guys are super interesting, and you get to learn, and that's amazing.
It's pretty amazing.
Yeah.
I mean, you learn a lot of bullshit, too.
Like, some of the stuff you learn is not true.
Well, that's the problem.
Yeah.
I got a question.
Yeah.
Bobby Kennedy seems to be, like, so fast.
Like, I remember I used to watch Tony Blair during question period, and he'd,
like, leap up, and he'd be like, blah, blah, blah.
And he was so, like, he knew everything and the facts and stuff.
Like, you've interviewed him a bunch of times?
I've talked to him many times.
I interviewed him once.
Is he that good in person?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's legit.
I mean, he was an environmental attorney.
Yeah, no, I, yeah.
That was his background.
And, you know, he's had a, I mean, a crazy life.
Imagine you're 14 years old, and your dad gets killed by who knows.
Who knows.
But it might be the government, you know.
That's my first episode.
Yeah.
Assassinations.
Deep state.
Mm.
Getting into it.
Well, it's a real thing.
You know, I don't know who's doing it, or what faction, or how small the amount
of people are that are involved in it.
I mean, imagine if you're, like, a legitimate person working for the CIA, and
you think that the CIA is trying to assassinate Trump, and you're like, well,
what the fuck?
You know, or, or whoever.
That's our first episode.
It's got to be, I mean, it's got to be a small faction of intelligence agencies
that want to do things.
Like, how many people do you think were involved in the Kennedy assassination?
So, there's a guy named Peter Dale Scott, who actually wrote the book on the
deep state, and brought, like, the concept over from Turkey to here, and broke
it.
And if you talk to him, so he was really involved, or wrote about, or covered
the, they tried to assassinate Castro.
That was the first American deep state thing, which is like, by the way, that's
factual.
That's like, there were the mob, and the Cubans, and the CIA, and they tried to
commit.
Many times, they tried to kill him.
They failed.
Yeah.
And then, you know, that sort of morphed, and there's all this sort of mix into
the Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, RFK assassination attempts that this guy was
referencing.
And you're just like, deep state has such a negative connotation to it, because
it's like conspiracy-ish.
But you're like, when it got explained to me by the guys who sort of coined the
terms, which is, you know, like, there's the intelligence agencies or the
Pentagon, career bureaucrats, who, by the way, go back and forth.
It's a rotating door.
They go to Raytheon.
They go to Boeing.
They go, and they get the contract.
Trillions of dollars.
And they act in cahoots with each other.
And you're like, yeah, that makes total fucking sense.
Of course.
It's a business relationship.
It's a business relationship.
And then, if they have something that needs to happen, you have all kinds of
people who will do that thing for you.
Yes.
So, it's not why, yeah, exactly.
It's not bureaucrats in the CIA.
Yeah.
It's probably, it could literally be one guy who's a top executive.
Or a hundred.
Or, you know, a few people that come to a conclusion and don't even have to say
it, and then a plan gets hatched.
Yeah.
And then, next thing you know, there's a guy on a roof.
Yeah.
We're already into it.
Yeah.
I can just see the fucking tweets.
Fuck the tweets.
But for sure, like, it's like, I found that fascinating.
Not only, so I started doing, like, the snipers.
We got the sniper, fascinating dude.
He has the longest confirmed kill, 3.5 kilometers.
So, we started just talking technical shit.
And you're like, okay, could it be done?
And the snipers, like, what do the snipers have to say?
And then we got to the head of the guy who trained all the Secret Service
people.
And we got the, actually, we got Trump's head of security for 18 years,
personal head of security guy.
First time he ever talked.
He was a great, great guy.
Keith Schiller.
And then we got into it.
And then everyone started talking about the deep state, deep state.
And I'm like, what the fuck is the deep state?
Like, I know what the deep state people think is.
That's the other thing is online.
Everyone has so many givens.
Right.
You know, like, in math, one plus one, it doesn't give it.
So, there's so many givens.
You're like, well, let's look at the givens.
Like, what is the deep state?
So, I literally went after the guy who coined the phrase.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, that sounds completely.
I mean, I know those guys.
Like, that sounds completely believable.
And then, so, when you believe that, then you start saying, okay, well, how do
these things look?
Like, what do they look like?
It was fascinating.
But, I mean, look, I'm into all this stuff.
And then you're there, like, all day, every day doing it.
It must be, it's fascinating.
I love it.
So, I did get sick in my long-winded answer.
I did get sick of being on the outside looking at it.
It is fascinating.
But I like the way I do it because I get to talk to anybody I want to.
Like, I don't have to just deal with things that are disturbing.
Yeah.
I can, you know, talk to someone who's a beekeeper.
I can talk to someone who, you know, makes cabinets.
Yeah, you made your own empire, which is fucking awesome.
Well, it's just what I'm interested in.
It just happens to be that a lot of people are interested in these things.
Yeah.
So, it's lucky.
And it's also because I'm actually interested in it, I don't have to have fake
conversations.
Yeah.
Like, there's no one I have on where I'm like, I can't believe I'm talking
about this guy.
Right.
You know, like, well, you see that, right?
You see that in, like, late-night talk shows.
They don't want to be interviewing this person.
No, it's too much.
Yeah, it's nonsense.
Well, Vice, when you started Vice, it was one of the most refreshing news
sources because
it was, like, these intelligent people that didn't seem like regular
journalists.
They seemed like just people that you knew.
Because they weren't.
Yeah, they were just people.
Right.
They seemed like normal people.
Yeah.
And yet, all of a sudden, they're wearing a flak jacket in a war zone.
Yeah.
They seemed like normal people, and they're hanging out in a hot tub in
Thailand.
That was it.
It's like it was normal people that were interested, like, Vice Guy to Travel,
that one with Heinmo's
Arctic Adventures, that is, till today, one of my favorite videos you guys ever
did.
I fucking love that story because it's amazing.
You've got this guy that lives in, you know.
The most remote human.
Yeah, like, in this tiny cabin.
He's been there since the 1970s.
He doesn't even, he saw 9-11 in a photograph.
That's all he knows about it.
He doesn't have any television up there.
He gets VHS tapes occasionally and watches them on a tiny TV.
Yeah.
And he just lives in this subsistence lifestyle, just fishing and hunting and
living off the
land.
And an intelligent, interesting, articulate guy.
You know, and he seems way happier than most people I know.
For sure.
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Yeah, he was the most remote human until we found those people in Russia and in,
like,
Siberia who had run from Stalin and this family who had gone up into the
mountains and just
lived there for, like, 80 years.
Whoa.
By themselves, like, made shoes out of bark and, like, totally self-sustaining
up in the
mountains of Siberia.
Like, they thought that, you know, they didn't know about the moon landing.
They didn't know about, like...
What kind of gene pool did they have going on?
Not a lot.
I think there was a lot of...
Inbreeding.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
How many people were there?
I don't know.
You can look.
I don't know.
It's, like, there was six when they found them, I think, and one was, like, 80
who was the
youngest or something.
Oh, God.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Crazy story, though.
Yeah, so they ran from Stalin, just stayed alive.
They thought Stalin was, like, you know, still there.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, yeah.
Isn't this funny?
You can't name a kid Adolf, but you can name a kid Joseph.
There you go.
Isn't that weird?
No.
It's a little weird.
Joseph was too common.
Yeah, Joseph was very common.
But wasn't Adolf really common with the Germans?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I mean, Joseph is everywhere.
I know.
Tha