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Joe Rogan Experience #2215 - Graham Hancock

The Joe Rogan experience
See sir, what's happening good to see you too, Joe
I watched episode one and I'm into episode two of your new season thanks
fantastic looks awesome
Fantastic information, but before we do anything
I think we should probably address what we know now about the debate that you
had with Flint Dibble
Yeah, that was the last time we're here
it was I
appreciate that he came on and I thought it was gonna be an interesting
discussion, but
It turned out he played fast and loose with the truth and and
distorted quite a bit of information that
Were some key points that you had discussed one of them being the amount of
shipwrecks
Yeah that were discovered he greatly inflated the amount of shipwrecks that
have been discovered and then
You released a video today. Yeah
That went over a lot of this stuff and one of the things that went over is the
oldest shipwreck that we are currently available
It's about 4,000 years old about 6,000 6,000 the Docos ship, but there's
nothing left of the ship
No, and this is what's important that you know
What he was trying to say was that it would be preserved by the cold water that
turns out to not be the truth at all and that these
Ships that are 6,000 years old. There's nothing left of the actual boat itself
The only thing that's left is pottery and coins and things of the like
and especially when you consider the possibility of
Ships having gone through a cataclysm, right not like it, but there's a there's
a
More central point than that which which really needed to be brought up by the
archaeologist in this which is that which is that archaeology
Universally accepts that human beings were seafarers as much as 50,000 years
ago
And I I put the evidence on this into the into the video. It's not even in
dispute like the island of Cyprus
The nearest Turkish coast is about 60 kilometers from there. It's always been
surrounded by huge deeps
It's always been an island even at the peak of the sea
Sea level lowest sea level during the ice age Cyprus was always an island and
Yet there's evidence now that it was settled
14,000 years ago certainly
14,000 to 12,500 years ago. It was settled in other words during the ice age
and
These were large planned migrations when you're going to
Migrate to an island you can't just go two or three people by accident because
you'll become extinct you have to bring in quite a large population and they
reckon that
Populations of a thousand or so were being brought across that water
Across the ocean across the Mediterranean Sea to Cyprus near the end of the
last ice age, but not a single ship has survived from
Testified to that same with Australia 50,000 years ago human beings got there
and even at the lowest sea level
They would have had to cross about 90 kilometers of open water
And in large numbers and again no ships have been found to testify to that yet
archaeologists accept that they got there by ship
So so to say that we haven't found any ships
From the ice age is not really evidence about anything
And if we're finding the oldest ships that we we currently are aware of which
is as you said about 6,000 years ago if you tack on
Another 6,000 years of decay on top of that. Sure. What are the odds you're
gonna find anything?
I think the odds are very very low now if we have that
Evidence and that information when we were confronting Flynn that would have
been a very different conversation
Totally, but the the arrogance in which he distributed that fake information
was a it's disturbing
It sucks when people just want to win. Yeah, and they don't want to get to the
truth
It does and the truth is kind it's very fascinating another thing that was very
fascinating that he discussed
I didn't want your whole video, but it was about seeds
I asked the question there's there's a very distinct
noticeable difference between
Domestic seeds and seeds that are wild and the difference is the seeds that are
wild they break off easier because it
it makes sense that it would
help them
Prosper it would help them be able to spread the seed if it broke off the plant
easier and so they can recognize that and then when
they start using large-scale
Agriculture the seeds become more robust and stick to the yeah to the plant
because it makes sense that it would if you're gonna
Harvest all the plants and then take the seeds off of that for the the plant to
Prosper you would want the the seeds to be more robust. So there's these
changes and I said
Have they ever noticed a?
Domesticated seed going back in having the characteristics of a wild seed. He
said no. Yeah, but that's not true
That's not true either now no, no, it's not it's it's it's not true and and the
whole notion of the of the origins of agriculture
I think archaeology has got a great deal more work to do on that
often I'm
Misrepresented as saying that survivors of my supposed lost civilization
Would have would have brought crops with them. I think that's most unlikely in
a cataclysmic situation
What they brought with them was the knowledge that crops can be domesticated
and it's precisely during the younger dryers that we see that shift from
Undomesticated to domesticated crops in the archaeological record and what I'm
suggesting is that these were people who had already
Conquered that problem. They'd already solved that problem. They knew it could
be done
And they brought that knowledge with them and shared that shared that knowledge
with the people that they took refuge amongst because I don't think we're
looking at a
Mass migration. I think we're looking at a few survivors who are taking refuge
after a global cataclysm
You know
It's just very unfortunate when you have a debate and one person is an expert
and they're not they're not truthful
And it's just I think it's very bad. I think it's very bad for archaeology
It is because it reinforces all the things you've been saying it does. I mean
to be honest. I felt beaten up after
After that debate, but looking back in in in retrospect on on the whole thing
I think it actually it actually makes the point that we have a very arrogant
very controlling
discipline in archaeology which has
Established a narrative about the past and which will fight tooth and nail to
maintain that narrative
Including using dirty tricks and I I think instead of you know smearing people
who talk about the possibility of a lost
Civilization or people who even talk about aliens
I think of instead of smearing them archaeology should understand why people
are asking those questions and people are asking those questions
Because they're not satisfied with what archaeology is offering. It's not it's
not providing a nurturing
Satisfying resolution to many of the problems that that come from the past and
that's what drives me
Is is is curiosity about anomalies in the past i'm
Often misrepresented as saying that somehow i've proved
That a lost civilization existed and and I don't claim to have proved that what
I do say is join me on this journey
There are mysteries in the past. Let's see if they're explained by archaeology
or if they're not explained
And I found quite a number that are not explained by archaeology and that's
particularly to do
With astronomical alignments with traditions that are shared all around the
world
It's to do with is to do with things that archaeologists by and large don't
study
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Well, it's also
One of the things that's fascinating is just even with conventional archaeology
the dates to keep getting pushed further and further back further and further
back
This is the one of the things the white sands new mexico stuff that you have on
episode one
That's right, which is by the way white sands
Have you been there? No, I haven't what an incredible
Ethereal otherworldly place and alamogordo is sitting right in the middle of
that
This is where they did the nuclear tests
Yeah, and the yikes the trinitite
Yeah, which was which was created there and there's gypsum sand. It's not
normal
It's just the most amazing amazing place and there. Yes, they found human
footprints dated back more than 23
Thousand years what do they think that environment was like?
22,000 years ago well, it would still have been like that
It would have been gypsum dunes then in that in in that place
I was in dunes. They wouldn't have left the footprints
I'm not exactly sure why the gypsum is there
But there is that the same stuff they use for like gypsum board for
construction. I reckon so. Yeah, wow
Yeah, it's a very fine very good white sand
And it just goes on forever and the dunes are sculpted and massive and huge and
we had an amazing time there
So it looked incredible so they found footprints there and these are absolutely
human footprints and there's not just a few of them
There's thousands of there's thousands of them and what's what's amazing when
you when you actually see the footprints
Is you can see the interactions between the human beings and animals you can
see that you can see that somebody is
Reacting to a giant sloth which has suddenly turned around and the person who's
behind it suddenly turns around as well
there's there's
Mammoth footprints overlaying human footprints and then human footprints
overlaying those
And it goes down for meters under the ground. So you have that you have a very
deep
stratification of these
impressions that have been left behind by our ancestors and and by animals that
are now completely extinct mammoths and mastotons went went extinct during the
younger driest
But there are their footprints from 23 000 years ago side by side with the
footprints of human beings
It's it's very intimate to see to see a footprint to see those those five toes
to see the heel mark to see
Sometimes a child walking beside a mother that's that's there in the in the
record as well
It's quite it's quite something special and it it opens the door
Archaeology has been very reluctant to accept
A much older peopling of the americas than previously was held it was held for
a long time that it was about 13 000 years
Ago they've abandoned that now they did cling on tooth and nail for decades,
but that's been abandoned
It's accepted that human beings came here
Long before 13 000 years ago and white sands is one of the places which which
provides just absolute definite irrefutable evidence of that
That they were here 23 000 years ago, but we don't know yet how long before
that they were here
This is this is this is this is part of the problem. I
Often
Remember a site called the cerruti mastodon site in san diego
I went to see it's the exhibits are in the san diego natural history museum and
I talked with the expert there dr tom demaray
And they are convinced that they are looking at human
Traces there it was a butcher butchering of a mastodon but the way the bones
were broken and the marrow was extracted
They don't see any other way that this could have been done except by human
beings and thing is
It's 130 000 years old not 23 000 years old not 13 000 years old but 130 000
years old
And y