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Joe Rogan Experience #2244 - Ryan Graves

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Hello.
Good to see you again.
Nice to see you.
What is the latest in the world of Ryan?
Other than the fact that you're about to have a child.
Congratulations on that.
Thank you.
You wanted to talk to me about this drone situation,
and I've become very concerned.
I don't understand what's going on.
I think there's a bunch of different narratives.
Some of them are very scary.
The scariest one that I've heard is that the drones are looking for gamma
radiation
because there's a missing nuke.
Yeah.
Let's address that first.
So there has been a lot going on.
I made a next post about this yesterday to try to assuage some fears.
I saw it, but I purposely didn't read it because I wanted to get it from you.
Yeah.
So, you know, I've had the privilege of interacting with a lot of government
organizations over the past few years
as I've been digging down this rabbit hole.
Law enforcement at a federal level, DOD, executive branch, legislative branch,
and some of the folks that I've come in contact with,
they specifically work on weapons of mass destruction.
So that's their job.
So if there's a loose nuke in the United States, among other agencies,
they would be some of the people that would be sitting in a skiff for 24 hours
a day trying to figure out where it is
and to go get it, right?
So you can imagine that would be their number one priority, right?
So I engage with these folks.
I ask them, you know, what's the sense here?
You know, people are kind of starting to panic a little bit,
and this message is getting out there more and more broadly.
And they assured me that's not the case, that there is not a loose nuke or
other type of weapon of mass destruction
that these objects, whatever they are, are pursuing right now.
Otherwise, they would be working in a skiff nonstop to make that go away, that
problem go away.
So, you know, that's part of why I have a high confidence level that this is
not a response to a massive imminent,
you know, weapons of mass destruction threat on the eastern seaboard.
So I just want to try to dispel that rumor right now.
I've seen a lot of talk of that online.
And I don't, you know, although this is, you know, I think a dangerous and
scary situation that's going on right now,
at least from that particular angle, that's not the indications I'm receiving.
So how would they persuade you just by saying that's not the case?
Or have they given you any information that leads to this conclusion?
They would be the people actively working it, essentially, right?
And they're not.
They're not working it, right?
So the government is holding back that secret from the direct resources within
the government
that are responsible for finding these systems.
Or they're not working the issue because there isn't an issue there to work.
So the thing that I had heard was that it was a missing nuke from Ukraine.
And if that was the case, so what could they do?
Is there any truth to this idea that we have the type of drone capability that
we could send these things out
and they would search for gamma radiation and they'd be able to find a nuke?
So there are teams that respond to those types of potential emergencies,
typically within the Department of Energy.
Having, you know, potentially hundreds of drones flying around trying to
identify these isn't necessarily the best way.
Gamma radiation is typically well shielded in weapons.
And at very high altitudes or even moderate altitudes, like we're seeing these
objects, it would be pretty difficult to detect them.
And the way that NIST, DOE, typically operates in this environment is ground-based
teams searching for radiation itself.
So it's not necessarily consistent with how they would do it to begin with.
And then based off of that other information, that's what leads me to believe
that's not the case.
Well, that makes me feel better because I was freaking out this weekend.
I think a lot of people were.
Yeah, I got a couple.
It's one of those things, especially in this day and age with social media.
There's so many narratives that get spread and retweeted.
And, you know, I know a guy who's an insider and he says to get out of the East
Coast and, you know, head for Nevada.
You know, there's a lot of that shit going on.
There's a lot of different versions of these drones.
And this is what's weird.
If they weren't ours, if they're not ours, you would think that they could just
track them and find out, well, where are they landing?
Who's got them?
How are they being used?
Is it RFI, like radio frequency?
Is it some sort of a different technology that's allowing them to pilot these
things?
Like, what is it?
Yeah.
They'd be able to tune into that and figure it out, right?
So how come no one's been arrested?
How come no one's been caught?
How come they haven't, you know, tracked these things down to the source?
Yeah.
So there's a lot of good questions there.
Let me back up by starting with the fact that this started about two years ago,
at least.
But not like this.
A little bit like this.
Really?
In this volume?
Not in this volume.
That's the differentiator right there.
But so Langley Air Force Base, you might be familiar with the fact that they
had drone incursions of an unknown type, unknown origin last year.
Right.
That happened during about a two-and-a-half, three-week period right before
Christmas, right where we are now.
That also happened the year before over Langley.
Unknown objects operating over the base.
They couldn't tell where they were going.
They were unprepared for them.
Same period of time, two, three weeks before Christmas.
This is year three, right?
And they were expecting them to come again for the third year in a row over
Langley.
And there was, you know, some effort put forward to be able to better
understand these when they came back.
And they did come back.
But they came back in a much wider swath, right?
Now we have them all over New Jersey, all the way up to Massachusetts.
And it's hard to tell exactly with the quality of the reporting right now
because it seems to be, you know, the bigger this story gets,
the more people are just looking up and seeing anything and pointing it out.
But, you know, there are reports from Texas to Florida to California, Ohio,
Minnesota, Pennsylvania.
I mean, it's not just New Jersey itself, it seems.
And even the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was shut down for a drone incursion
just this last Friday, a couple days ago.
So this isn't just a one-off event.
It is in the sense that it's so large and so many people are paying attention
to it.
But this has been occurring for at least three years around military bases.
And that's nothing to say with the incidents that we were seeing over the
eastern seaboard and other training ranges that fighter pilots were seeing as
they were doing their operations.
So I'm a little hesitant to link it to that, the full story that we've been
having here, this full conversation.
But at least for three years, this has been occurring.
So, you know, kind of getting back to your question, you know, why can't we do
more about it?
It's a hard problem, I think, for a number of reasons.
It's hard, but it's very solvable, right?
I think this can be solved.
We can solve it.
But right now, kind of the word on the street is that these objects appear to
be coming from over the ocean.
There's senior congressmen, there's coast guard personnel, there's law
enforcement that are seeing a large number of these come from somewhere over
the ocean.
I don't know if that means necessarily they're popping out of the water
physically or if they're coming from some unknown location in the water and
then proceeding over the coast.
I don't know how that relates to Ohio.
That's a pretty long trip, if they are coming over the ocean.
And from the videos I've seen and the conversation I've had, they are detecting
these objects through kind of normal mechanisms like radar systems, optical
camera systems.
They are flying very low.
In some cases, they seem to be operating as a group in the vicinity of each
other, flying past each other, flying very up close to each other.
And then proceeding to do whatever they are that they're doing.
It's an unknown right now if they are emitting energy or not.
So, you know, like radio communications or their own maybe active sensor
systems.
It's unknown.
I've poked on that front and the best I can tell, the government doesn't know
either.
That seems so weird that they don't know that.
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Like, it's just very disturbing that someone could operate these things and
have, I mean, how many, what is the estimated number of them?
That's a great question.
I mean, at this point, I'm comfortable making a guess of probably over 800 or 1,000.
And how many of those are sightings of the same object?
How many of those are individual objects?
How many of those are unique objects that, so it's tough to say, but this isn't
just a few objects that people are seeing.
And so, I can imagine some technologies that will allow traditional UAVs or
drones to operate without emitting, right?
So, they could be, they could have a self-contained navigational system, right?
Maybe they have their own onboard maps and they're using cameras to map where
they are.
So, then they would be completely autonomous.
You just send them out there and they would have a task and they would go
through their, whatever their task is and navigate via their GPS or whatever
tracking system they're using.
Exactly.
And then, you know, what is their task, right?
Right.
Is it just to instill panic and fear?
Is it because they're sensing something?
And if they are sensing something, they would have to be using what's called
passive sensors, right?
So, like a camera system is passive, but if you're shooting, you know, a radar
out and having it bounce off of something, that's active, right?
And that's easier to detect than a passive system.
So, I could imagine, you know, a fully self-contained autonomous drone system
that is doing something potentially with passive sensors that allows it to
operate without emissions, which is going to make it harder to track.
So, if they're doing it at night, if they do have passive systems like some
sort of an optical system, wouldn't that be hindered by the low light
conditions?
Or do we have stuff that is able to detect whatever they're looking for at
night?
Yeah, depends what they're looking for, but ultimately, there is tech, there's
electro-optical systems, there's infrared camera systems, not unlike the jets
that, or the systems that we had on my j