Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2252 - Wesley Huff
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2252 - Wesley Huff' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2025-01-07. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2252 - Wesley Huff

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan
podcast by
night all day Wes very nice to meet you Joe pleasure so I like many people was
introduced
to you because of the debate yeah you had with billy cars quote-unquote you
know it's one of
those things where it's very unfortunate when people get caught with their
pants down and I'm
not an expert in many things but the things that I am an expert on you could
wake me up at four o'clock
in the morning and ask me about those things and I go oh yeah no um yeah this
is what it is yeah I
know you know like martial arts or comedy I could tell you I could give you an
expert version of
reality it seems like he does not have that and he is a wonderful talker and it's
a lot of fun I like
watching his videos it's I love all that ancient history stuff and even the the
most ridiculous
tinfoil hat aspects of ancient it's fun it's entertainment but I know that
there's a different
like Andrew Schultz and I had a discussion about this like he said when he had
billy on the podcast
he said we're not gonna fucking research anything we're not gonna search
anything we're not gonna
do anything just let him talk because it's fun yeah Andrew's awesome um but
when he was on with you
it was quite apparent that you are an actual expert in in the bible and in many
religious texts and that
he didn't necessarily have the facts straight yeah what was the fallout of all
of that well it's
interesting you say the expert thing because I I literally was asked to do it
24 hours beforehand
so I had like the least amount of preparation right going into it and I I was
okay with that because
I'd listen I'd listen to Billy Carson well and I listened to the stuff he said
so I knew enough about
the ways that he'd articulated things about the ancient near east and the bible
and christianity to
know enough that he his level is a is pretty surface but the fallout was that
not only did he not want
us to release the the conversation but then he started throwing out cease and
desist letters
and then he started you know trying to sue people so I mean I was never worried
because I'm a Canadian
and anybody who's tried to sue internationally knows that good luck yeah right
yeah as far as I understand
it he would have had to file a claim in a Canadian court that would have been
reviewed to have legal
precedence that he he'd have to prove that he could win what was his argument
um apart from the fact that
he was embarrassed that he lost well yeah that's well that's not really an
argument right we've all
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desist letter yeah the cease and desist letter said you i don't want you to use
my name or my face
in anything going forward and anything you've used up until this point you need
to remove
and i was given 24 hours notice to do this but if you're a public figure he's
clearly a public figure
is that even can you actually say no no no you can't do it so what was the does
he have a lawyer that
wrote the cease and desist yeah no so he actually it's interesting because he
mark menard who was the
guy who hosted this interaction um he sent mark a handwritten one and then he
eventually gave mark an
official one from his lawyer so i actually was sent one by his lawyer which i
you know screenshotted
posted publicly online and said i'm going to ignore this uh and then uh but he'd
sent mark who was the
podcast host as as far as i'm aware numerous cease and desist and anton who was
the media manager
he'd sent a number of cease and desist it's unfortunate it is unfortunate you're
when you get caught with your
pants down you're supposed to say i got caught with my pants down yeah that's
what you're supposed to
do yeah it's the only especially if you're public like it's very clear that you're
incorrect well
the irony of this situation is if he just kind of left it it probably wouldn't
have made anywhere
close to the splash no that it's made and we told him that we said like hey barbara
streisand effect
yeah is going to happen yeah like you're a big enough personality that if i
make a video and say
like hey i had this conversation didn't go well for billy and billy doesn't
want it released that's
going to start to gain traction sooner or later yeah um it's you know the
problem is to really
delve into these subjects to it takes a tremendous amount of research years and
years and years of
research you really have to know what you're talking about most of us don't
well especially with
languages yeah like we didn't get into it i i hoped to have in our initial
conversation kind of press
him a little bit more on the more overt things he'd said about like greek and
hebrew and sumerian
because i've studied a number of ancient languages and when you study the
languages you realize the
complexities of these things and so when someone hasn't and they're making
statements that are
obviously indicative of someone who hasn't studied them it's it's super
apparent right and so i think
it's one thing to be making claims about say like christian history or the
bible but when you start to
get into like linguistics and philology it gets messy and if you don't know
what you're talking about it
gets really apparent really fast so the gentleman who brought the two of you
together what was his goal
like what was he trying to do and how did he approach you yeah so he's friends
or i should
say was friends he was friends with billy they live in the same neighborhood oh
boy so it's actually
become really um it's become pretty rough for him so he released a video
yesterday which i think people
should go and check out where he kind of gives his perspective he's been
friends with billy for years he
was at billy's wedding billy had 15 people at his wedding mark was one of them
and they're they live
in this community in florida their their sons are friends their wives would
hang out and um mark
told me he's like i've been hearing billy say you know he wants to debate
nobody will debate him for
years and so as far as i think mark was concerned he was giving billy the
opportunity that billy had told a
lot of people he wanted right and so he you know this was set up um in that
mark and billy have been
talking they've been on each other's podcasts in the past and they've been
friends but more like
business colleagues like mark has come out and said i hadn't really gone into
the stuff he'd said about
christianity or ancient religions or whatever that much mark is a he's a christian
um he has like a
public profession of faith and he him and billy had talked about the fact that
they wanted to talk
about like faith stuff and some of their differences and that um that mark was
kind of prepping for
this and his media manager anton had sent him some of my stuff and said like
wes has done some stuff
on some things that that billy has talked about and uh you know maybe you
should look up some some of
this stuff you know read into it and mark very last minute was like well i'm i
feel inadequate
do you think i could just ask wes and so he dm me on instagram and just kind of
laid this out like hey
i'm gonna have billy in my studio in 24 hours i can tell him you're coming can
tell him who you are
i can like give him your background but would you be willing to come and so
that's what i did and so
that's how it got set up so um correct me if i'm wrong but was billy aware that
this was going to be a
debate or did he think it was going to be just a discussion like what did he
think it was going to be
no he'd been given all of the prerequisites like he knew we're gonna go over
some of his stuff that
he'd said about christianity that i was going to come in who i was what my name
was some some of my
background and that part of the conversation was going to be me kind of asking
him some clarifying
questions and rebutting some of the things that he said so he you didn't watch
the three-hour live
stream that he did did you i watched chunks of it okay i watched a little bit i'm
like oof and then i
shut it off then i watched a little bit more oof yeah so unfortunately billy
there says he had no
idea going in and i mean as mark said in his video that he released yesterday i
mean that's
poundly false he knew what it was going to be who was going to be involved and
even some of the things
that we would be talking about okay and he also was claiming that it wasn't a
debate that he had been
involved in debates before and that he would prepare for debates but this is
something he didn't prepare
but again it's like if you ask me about things that i know about yeah you can
wake me up yeah out of a
full sleep and give me a couple seconds i'll go oh okay uh this is what it is
yeah if you know you know
and it wasn't a debate in one sense like it wasn't like we didn't do you know
opening statements and
cross-examination and rebuttal right it really was a conversation right and um
it only kind of turned
into a debate in the sense that billy i think got caught out and so the things
that were talked about
kind of showed that you know that he needed to go on the offense yes yeah well
again it's all very
unfortunate but the good part of is i was introduced to you and your work and
there you go very very
extensive and very fascinating and the videos that you sent me on instagram i
watched both of those
today as well awesome so really really interesting stuff and your knowledge of
the history of the
biblical texts and the codex sinaticus and all these different things very very
fascinating stuff
so let's just get into your background like how did how did you get started in
your research and how
did you how did you get into this yeah so i grew up in a christian home i my
parents were missionaries
so i was born in pakistan and spent a portion of my childhood in the middle
east with my parents
working in amman jordan and then uh we came back from from the middle east when
i was pretty young
and uh so i grew up in this very like uh diverse home in the sense that my mom
was a missionary kid
who grew up in india and so we had a lot of like worldview kind of perspectives
uh represented in our
home like i often say we had the bhagavad-gita and the book of mormon and the
quran on the shelf oh wow
yeah and i think you know that always although my parents were never overt with
this kind of stuff
they always had the perspective that you know we're christians we believe that
this worldly perspective
is true but hey this stuff isn't scary this stuff isn't you know off limits you
know we can
investigate these things and they never said that outright but that i always
felt this kind of attitude
of that kind of perspective and you know having been ex