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Joe Rogan Experience #2258 - Steven Rinella

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The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Steve Vanilla.
That was a long exhale.
I needed one.
Is this Trump's chair?
He sat in that chair, yeah.
I want to soak up some of the tenacity, man.
He's got a lot of that.
It took me a long time, man.
It took me a long time to see it.
I remember people would talk, there was this thing when he emerged on the scene,
it was this thing about toughness.
And I'd always defined, in my mind, toughness was being able to go through
some alder-choked hellhole real fast or hike up a hill.
So I was like, that's not tough.
And then later I was like, oh.
Mental toughness.
That kind of tough, man.
Think about what that guy went through.
I mean, he had the entire media, the entire justice system, he had the deep
state, the
central intelligence agency.
He had all these people conspiring to take him out.
Literally an assassination attempt and then another one.
In and out of the news in no time.
Nobody cared.
No grace period.
No.
They waited about a day and then they started talking shit about him again.
That's the thing.
When I looked at it, now that I've come to understand it better, I'm like, the
fact that most people
would crawl into a hole.
I got a buddy, I don't want to say who it is, but he had sold his business and
he told
me, he goes, well, when I sell my business, I'm going to crawl into a deep,
dark hole.
And later he's kind of back out and bought another business.
And I said, what about crawling into the deep, dark hole?
And he said, well, I did, but my wife was in there.
He goes, I had to get back.
I'm not ready yet.
I got to get back out.
People, I think that's like these sort of fictional depictions of the future
that, you
know, everybody wants this future where, you know, you're just holding hands
and walking
off into the sunset, the golden years.
It's all bullshit.
If you're alive, you're going to want to do the same things you're doing right
now.
Yeah.
You're not going to have some point in your life where you're going to want to
do nothing
and be happy that you don't have to do anything.
You're going to get depressed.
Yeah, I think about it.
But my wife's, my wife's smart enough to worry about what had happened to us if
we didn't
have like, you know, dragons to slay.
Yeah.
You know, she feels that it might be essential.
It's essential for life.
You need puzzle.
You need at least some sort of a very involving hobby.
You need something.
I mean, you can retire from, if you have a lot of money, you could retire from
your financial
pursuits, but you need something that you enjoy doing.
Human beings need tasks.
If you don't have something, you get very dull.
And that's how people get Alzheimer's.
They just fucking get dementia.
They just like sit around the house and their brain atrophies and then they
just die.
Yeah.
But I look at people like that and, you know, part of looking at, well, Biden
and Trump would
be at that age.
Like, I plan on at that age to be like really kicking it and just screwing
around outside.
Yeah.
Just having fun.
But that just thing, like to perform to the bitter end, man.
Mm-hmm.
Well, Biden is not performing.
Trying to perform to the bitter end.
What he's doing is strange.
Yeah.
Trying to keep at it.
He's getting propped up.
I think there's other people that are like pushing him towards the, get out
there.
Come on.
Like, I think Jill's got her hands on his lower back.
Just giving a push.
Get out there.
Come on.
You can win again.
I think I could have beaten Trump.
Yeah.
It's, but it's that thing too where people, oh, one day you'll get to a certain
age and you'll
like, you know, I'm 57 and I used to think, oh, when I'm 57, I'll be done.
I'll just, if I have some money, I'm just going to relax.
Yeah.
That's nonsense.
I don't want to relax.
How long do you think, how long do you think you, if you had guests, how long
would you
do this podcast?
This is the easiest thing I do.
Really?
Yeah.
I'll do this forever.
Really?
It's so easy to do.
Yeah, as long as I'm actually interested in talking to the people, how hard is
that?
Actually interested?
Yeah, but that's the only reason why I do it anyway.
Yeah.
Like, I only talk to people I want to talk to.
So, no one ever tells me, you know, have this person on your show.
There's literally zero input from anyone else.
So, everybody I talk to, I look at, I go, do I want to talk to that guy?
That might be cool.
That'd be interesting.
I want to find out what makes him dick.
I want to find out why she writes those books like that.
I want to find out, you know, what keeps him going.
That's like the whole reason why I do it is because I enjoy it.
Do you picture walking away from stand-up before you'd walk away from podcasts?
I don't know.
Why would I do that, too?
I have my own club now.
I don't know.
I'm 50 years old, man.
I'm just starting to wonder.
I'm just starting to have all these questions.
I think you enjoy it.
You just stay healthy.
Stay healthy and do what you enjoy doing.
I think live in the moment.
I think this idea of, like, planning for the future is, like, silly.
I really do.
I think you should have goals.
Like, if you enjoy doing things and you're like, I would like to get to this
point.
I would like to do this.
And something to strive towards, that's good.
But this idea that, like, you know, one day you're just going to, like, stop
doing stuff.
Like, why?
Yeah.
Are you alive?
Are you enjoying doing it?
Yeah.
Let's shut the fuck up.
Like, you could be so much worse off.
There's so many things to dwell on other than whether or not I want to stop
doing something
that I enjoy.
Why would I ever even think about that?
That's a good point, man.
That's a good point.
These are all questions I had never really thought about, but I'd be more
interested in
them after I crossed that threshold, you know?
But I could conceive a time where I don't want to do it anymore.
I don't want to be a public person anymore.
The public aspect of it is the weirdest part.
The people constantly wanting your time and everybody thinking that if I can
connect with this
guy, that I can make a lot of money.
I can set up a business with him.
I can do this with him.
I can do that with him.
He can introduce me to this.
I can, you know, work with him.
I could do it.
There's a lot of that.
A lot of that that's exhausting.
A lot of these, like, opportunists and weirdos.
Yeah.
You know, those are exhausting.
I remember years ago, three, four years ago, you told me that you wished you
were, we
were eating barbecue and you told me you wished you were 10% less famous.
But I feel like then you got 20% more famous.
Yeah.
Yeah, I fucked up.
Well, I thought doing the Spotify thing.
I was like, his direction isn't going the right way.
That was the whole reason why I took the Spotify deal.
I was like, good.
They're going to give me a lot of money and it'll only be on Spotify.
So I'll be about 10% less famous.
Good.
Let me slide off into obscurity.
Because all, I mean, as long as I'm making money, I was like, I just enjoy
doing it.
I don't care how many people, like, the people that like it will still listen.
So maybe I'll have less casual fans.
Like, who cares?
Yeah.
Who cares?
You know?
Yeah.
There's a certain level of fame, though, that's a little unmanageable.
And I'm in that level.
Yeah.
It's very unmanageable.
You know what it is?
Well, part, you know, if you'll allow me to tell you what it is.
Okay.
Please do.
And I observed this.
I observed this.
My wife, who's traveling with me right now, I observed this after we had dinner
with you
one time.
And certain individuals, you included, would be that it's not just people that
don't like
you.
Right?
There's people that like you too much.
Yeah.
The people that don't like you just avoid you.
I know.
And so it's like, you got to, like, at a certain point, you got to worry about
the people that
like you.
Yeah.
Oh, believe me.
I know.
Because they like you a lot.
Oh, I know.
Yeah.
And they also...
They're like, I'd like to take, kidnap that Joe Rogan and bring him home with
me.
They want me to go to their house.
And keep him in my basement.
Yeah.
I get, I get, like, letters.
People want me to come to their house.
I get it.
You know, especially if you don't know anyone famous.
And the thing about podcasts, too, is, like, you're so intimately connected to
that person
because you hear that person talk all the time.
Yeah.
I do four of these a week.
So it's like they're hearing me, you know, it's fucking 12 hours a week of me
talking to
you.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
It's a lot of times that thing.
I mean, it comes up.
It's over-observed.
Tim Ferriss mentioned it to me.
He's like, people think, like, they think they know you, but he's like, but
they do.
Mm-hmm.
They do.
They do, and you don't know them.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is real weird.
Yeah.
They know what you think about stuff.
They know what you think about current events.
They know about your background, right?
The good thing about that, though, is if, like, someone tries to pretend you're
something
other than you are, if, like, there's a smear campaign against you, people are
like, no,
I know that guy.
Oh.
Like, they actually know you.
Yeah.
They really know you.
Like, people have listened to me, like, 100 hours.
There's no confusion.
There's no, like, guesswork.
Like, this is who I am.
Yeah.
I'm not that complicated.
It's a long charade.
Yeah.
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That'd be a long charade that you've played.
Yeah.
Imagine.
Imagine you bullshitted people for that long.
That's, oh, yeah, amazing.
Like a 100,000-hour charade, a 100,000-an-hour charade.
Bullshitting people.
Yeah.
But, you know, there's always that suspicion when you see someone on television
that they're
not really that way because there's been, like Ellen, like the Ellen situation.
Yeah.
You know, people found out that Ellen was mean, and all these people came out
and said,
Ellen's actually a fucking bitch.
And they were like, oh, I can't believe it.
And she lost everything.
She fell apart, disappeared, because people found out that this character that
she was
portraying in a half an hour on a television show is not really who she was.
Yep.
You know, but I hadn't already known that because I had a buddy who worked for
her.
And he was like, she's a fucking monster.
Yeah.
I didn't have a lot of, I didn't really had a lot of awareness.
You probably did just from being in the business.
I only did because of my buddy.
Yeah.
My buddy, Greg, who was one of her writers, was like, she's a piece of shit.
I didn't know enough to be surprised.
It's just people that, um, they get in those positions of power and if their
whole life
they've been fucked with and picked on or, you know, they've been marginalized
and then
all of a sudden they're in control.
Like, oh, now it's payback.
There's a lot of those folks.
That's what happened to Castro.
Is that it?
Is that what happened to Castro?
Yeah.
I mean, like, you know, I mean, it's like the, in fact, I would talk about that
a little
bit in some, you know, I've, I've discussed that in like various conversations
around when
you watch like 