Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2264 - Lenval Logan & Jason Sands
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Joe Rogan Experience #2264 - Lenval Logan & Jason Sands

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Okay, Joe, what's happening?
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, Steve.
Both of you guys were in the program, which is a UFO, that's why I wore my Braswell
shirt,
a disclosure documentary all about what's going on behind the scenes.
Why don't you tell everybody before we get started, Jay, tell them what your
background is, what you do.
I'm a retired Master Sergeant from the Air Force, worked 22 years, retired 2007.
Started off as an airframe guy, ended up in Intel, and that's when things got
strange.
Had my second duty assignment as an Intel guy and got introduced to the program,
and that's how I ended up in the movie.
I had some strange experiences that I could talk about that were unclassified.
So I came forward, and that's where James founded me, and we got along pretty
good,
and everything's a history from there.
And, Logan, you were in the documentary as well, so we'll tell everybody what
you do.
So I am a—
Pull this up to your face.
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
So I'm also a retired Master Sergeant from the Air Force.
Started off as a B-52 crew chief, cross-trained into Intel, retired after 21
and a half,
and I ended up being part of the UAP task force, and I was one of the first
people to come across Jay here and some other people.
And from that, James found out about me and said, okay, we need to talk.
So him and Leslie Keene approached me, and I was like, yeah.
But I kind of got outed by Jay Stratton.
Everybody was ganging up around him, and he was like, why are you asking me?
Logan, work for me.
And everybody went, and I was like, okay, I guess I'm out.
Oh, boy.
So what—let's start with you, Jay.
What was your first introduction to this whole concept that we are in
possession of alien crafts
or that we have communicated or there's been some contact?
Like, what was your thoughts about it before you had these experiences?
I had had a childhood experience with a UFO previous to that when I was 10
years old.
So I didn't really get an interest in UFOs at all.
I just thought it was strange.
It was also a shared experience with my mother.
What was the experience?
Well, it was just a red orb that came down.
It looked like it came from the atmosphere, you know, at a distance,
and then kept approaching my bedroom window and ended up kind of hovering near
the bottom of my street.
And I was screaming to my parents, you know, there's a strange light outside,
and nobody responded.
So I ran out to get my binoculars, my dad's binoculars, and ran out to the
front lawn.
And finally, my mom was the only one that responded.
And we both got to see it taken off as it came across the rooftop of my friend
Eddie's house at the bottom of the street.
And that's what she got to see my mother and I.
Did it make any noise?
Zero noise.
No, it just looked like a total mirror, completely polished mirror kind of oblong
kind of a ship or craft.
How big was it?
It was about 30, 35 foot.
Really?
Maybe even 40 foot.
Yeah, it was about half the size of my friend's rooftop if you were to measure
it from front end to back.
So, you know, it was pretty big.
It was enough for probably you or I to stand up in it and walk around a little
bit.
And your mother has the exact same recollection of the experience?
Actually, I've been asked to write a book, so I've got her writing her part of
that.
And I'll have the same thing.
I've had another couple of experiences that my family members and other friends
will probably write up some.
And so this was all when you were young.
And so you had this memory in your head when you started working for the
government.
But when were you introduced to the whole idea that this is a real thing?
Well, I know it's on mission because I just kind of filed away that UFO
experience at 10 years old for many years.
And I just was kind of even skeptical sometimes about, well, maybe it was just
something, you know, an aberration in my mind or eyes or something.
But anyway, so I got really convinced that this was real when I was at Wright-Patt
on a mission when I was in the program.
And we intercepted some calls that literally were speaking about an NHI
presence in the program.
And they were working in labs.
So Wright-Patt for everybody, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio and NHI
non-human intelligence, right?
That's correct.
And so they were saying, what were they saying?
How much can you say?
Like, is any of this top secret or is any of this?
I can pretty much talk about the culture and the presence of the NHI.
But I can't talk about, like, weapon systems and the technology they're
developing.
That's all going to have to be national security stuff because we don't want
our enemies to know what we got.
Of course.
So what was this talk of NHI?
What did it entail when you first heard it?
Well, it was between two people that were talking about the day's interview
with this NHI that they had.
They called it an Eben.
They had an interview?
Yeah.
He had had an interview with them.
And he was relaying what was talked about in that interview to another
individual, probably his boss or somebody that is going to, you know, pass it
on to the rest of the folks in the group or whatever.
Did you see this written down?
I did not.
I had it recorded just like you would with anything else that's, you know, it's
recorded in such a way that it can stand legal, forensic kind of analysis.
That's the level of stuff that you have to do with an intel guy is you have to
be really specific about what you're recording and make sure it's accurate.
Even whether you believe it or not, what's going on, you have to be able to
transcribe that word for word the way it goes.
So you heard the recording.
That's how you found out about this non-human intelligence thing.
Well, it was an active phone call.
That's what I did on the red team that I was on for the program because I was
monitoring for the Air Force.
And in this case, I'm monitoring for the program.
Can you say how the conversation went?
Like, how did someone bring up non-human intelligence?
What was like, was there any discussion before this non-human intelligence of
UFOs at all or aliens at all?
Yeah, there was quite a few times.
We had a scientist on the team.
There was an officer.
He was a nuclear scientist.
And he was able to give us some insights and stuff like that because we'd have
some really strange things like things that were turning at 90 degrees.
And how do you not break that piece of machinery or not kill the occupants?
And we were hearing stuff like that.
And they had, like, very technical parameters that I cannot discuss.
But they were talking about these.
And we'd get the scientist to come and talk to us.
And he'd say, oh, yeah, that's this, this, and this.
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And so how does the conversation go where the non-human intelligence gets
brought up?
That was just like the two of them that when I picked up the call and started
the recording on it, there was some guy that was there at Wright-Patt.
And apparently he had been talking to Des Eben.
And he said, yeah, up-to-date session.
Yeah, we've got some more information you need to hear about.
This is what is going to happen.
You know, he says that there's going to be another meeting and that if we don't
return the equipment and the prisoners, there's going to be some bad things
happen.
We have prisoners.
Yes.
This is what they said on the phone call.
And the other guy's like, well, hey, what if we can't get them, you know, to
return all the equipment and the people?
And the guy that had given the interview, he's like, you don't want to do that.
And the guy's like, well, why?
He said, if you don't, they're going to be put to death.
And I was like, I literally stepped back for a minute and I was like, what's
going on here?
So I had to finish out the call.
They talked about sundry, other things, just stupid stuff.
Can you be a little bit more clear, like, who was going to be put to death?
The program folks that are responsible for keeping the tech that's not theirs
and also, you know, doing things to these extraterrestrials.
How did they allegedly acquire this tech?
Retrievals.
Retrievals.
Yeah, when I was first introduced into the program, one of the very first
things they asked me was, do you want to be part of the retrieval program?
And I said, well, tell me about it.
And when they said the things they said, I was like, no, number one, it sounds
gross.
Number two, you probably can't give me enough PPE gear and hazmat gear to make
me feel safe around these things.
And no, I'm not interested in that.
Thank you very much.
So how do they describe it that freaked you out that much?
They're talking about biological entities that are retrieved along with the
crash?
Yes.
Why do they crash if they're so fucking smart?
That's always the big question, right?
Well, I think the new guy on the block, Jake Barber, he's describing some of
the ways that you can do this psionically.
I guess the psionic team, he's going to start showing some of that to the world,
that some of these crafters are manned and piloted by consciousness.
And apparently they have a psionics team that can actually get in the headspace
of these craft and cause them to land.
So it's not really a forced landing.
It's just kind of a mutual thing.
So wait a minute.
The United States government has the ability to contact or interact with these
craft and force them to land?
Yes.
And then there's other ones that are done kinetically, which is more of the
scary side of it and the ugly side of the program is that what you've got here
is it's not so much the military doing this, but the corporate people like Lockheed,
Northrop and all these other companies, they treat this stuff as very high
value target kind of stuff.
And it's very valuable for them to get the retrievals.
So you've got really what amounts to a bunch of treasure hunters that are hired
with mercenaries involved as well that go out for these retrievals.
And that's where Jake Barber comes in is that he sees some of these people that
are hired to come out and retrieve this stuff.
And he's done that.
So the idea would be that the retrievals would be very valuable because you
could back engineer the tech, figure out how it works, make weapon systems,
make superior crafts.
How long has this supposedly been going on for?
Decades.
It's been going on for a very long time.
But if the tech that we have now that allows us to tell them to land didn't
exist before, why did they crash before?
Like what is Roswell?
Well, Roswell, the most accurate account is t