Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries
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Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries

You just said something that's like very important, you can't be dogmatic when
you're talking
about vaccines or about anything.
Yes, it is good to keep an open mind, isn't it, and be flexible and look at a
360 degree
view of things rather than your tunnel vision and what you're indoctrinated
into, isn't
it?
Yeah, and especially if you know that that indoctrination has been on purpose
and profitable.
And one of the great things about your book is, first of all, your book's
called Dissolving
Illusions.
I know I've talked about it on the podcast a bunch of times, but you also
highlight a lot
of things that we know are beneficial that somehow or another get lumped into
nonsense,
like even cinnamon.
Yeah.
Cinnamon is a powerful herb actually.
And it's known to be helpful in glucose handling for a lot of diabetics taking
it in capsule
form now.
I noticed at the end of my nephrology career that a lot of my own patients were
taking cinnamon
capsules, but it also has a lot of vitamin C in it, and I think that was
probably one of
the keys.
A lot of those old remedies that we wrote about, the magic in them probably was
the vitamin
C in them.
I dismissed all that stuff as total nonsense.
I was like, oh, that's hippie nonsense, like echinacea, like get out of here.
It's hippie nonsense.
Garlic.
Come on, get out of here.
But then the more I've read things, especially like garlic is incredible for staph
infections
for some reason.
It is.
And it doesn't develop drug resistance like a lot of the drugs that are
engineered for
it.
Yeah.
The hippies seem to have got it right.
I think.
Well, it just that whole idea of natural remedies is so just universally
dismissed by non-silly
people.
You know, when you say natural remedies, that's great.
If you have a heart attack, go to a doctor, stupid.
You know, that's generally people's appeal to authority.
Right.
It's the doctor should be recommending those things to like they're good to
like vitamin
D, super important, you know, vitamin A, super important.
And one of the things that you talked about in the book is that I think this is
really important
when you're talking about the measles vaccine.
You were saying that either if you get an infection with measles, just a
natural infection, or if
you get the vaccine, you're still going to get depleted of vitamin A. Like if
you get
vaccinated for the measles, you should be taking vitamin A as well.
That's right.
Your body's going to get depleted just by getting that shot.
They don't tell you that.
No, they don't tell you anything.
Just Tylenol, which actually makes the vaccine not work as well, in addition to
causing all
kinds of immunological disturbances at the time that you're supposed to be upregulating
your immune system against this dreaded disease.
Yeah.
But one of the things about the recommended by the, you know, the white coats
and the authorities
is that the public believes that so many drugs and remedies are standardized
that the conventional
medical system gives out.
And when you go to actually look at them, and this includes vaccines, even
though they're
standardized, meaning that the manufacturers are told what the regulations
should be in terms
of production, when people go and look at them, they find it's anything but
standardized.
It's very variable, which is why we see such variability in the results when
people receive them.
That's only one reason why there's so much variability.
Right.
And do you think it's the immunity to any legal consequences that has allowed
them to sort
of operate like this?
Well, we certainly saw an explosion of their creativity since 1986.
So 19, actually in 1986, you're referring to the National Child Vaccine Injury
Act that
was passed in 1986.
Before 1986, we had 1976, which was the swine flu vaccine fiasco.
And that was, that was a situation where there was so much injury that the
vaccine producing
companies were no longer able to get insurance.
And so they went to the government and they said, we need you to indemnify us.
And they did.
And so the government absorbed all the lawsuit cases that happened as a result
of the Guillain-Barré
that happened from then.
And so that kind of set a precedent for 1986.
So back then, vaccines were just kind of, you know, pieces of microbe or maybe
a live
attenuated virus.
And then they would put a background of all kinds of horrid things inside of it
and tell
you it was just a clear, beautiful, pure solution.
But that's beside the point.
So then 1986 comes along because there's so many lawsuits happening because of
the diphtheria,
pertussis, tetanus vaccine that, again, the vaccine companies couldn't continue
to go
on the way they were because they were being sued so much.
So then this horrible act was passed, which to some people seemed like a good
idea.
And this is always how it goes, is we're going to make you this promise.
Yes, yes, yes.
We're going to cover all the lawsuits now out of taxes, but it's going to be
okay because
we're going to pay out these lawsuits and you're going to be fine.
If your kid takes one for the team, you're going to be okay.
And what happens is after time, after they get their foot in the door, they
narrowed down
the -- they basically have a kangaroo court that decides if you're eligible.
And so the qualification tables got narrowed down because in the beginning they
were paying
out so much of this.
So not only did it make the vaccine companies very, very wealthy and indemnified,
but as
you alluded to just a minute ago, the creativity of the vaccine companies
expanded.
So after that they could add different, what we call adjuvants, things that
stimulate the
immune system so the vaccine works better.
Then they start -- that's why we're able to be in a messenger RNA vaccine
situation today,
which that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for this indemnification that,
you know, the
vaccine trials have always been a bit of a joke, but they're even more of a
joke today
than they were in the beginning.
We've never seen a vaccinated/unvaccinated study that's -- that is accepted by
the powers
that be as, you know, good enough.
The vaccinated/unvaccinated studies that they have, they use another vaccine
for.
You probably know that.
So if you're testing a measles vaccine, you know, you could test it against a
diphtheria
vaccine or a flu shot vaccine is tested against a hepatitis A vaccine.
There's no saline placebo because the few studies that exist with saline placebos
show
how bad the vaccine actually is and how it makes you not only not respond to
the disease
when it comes around, but more susceptible to it in many cases.
Have there been any instances where vaccines have been helpful?
The question of the century, isn't it?
Okay.
Now, we have to back up a minute because I had that same question and I had to
go dig deep
to all the questions you have in your head right now.
I had them too at one point.
So here I am, a medical doctor working in the field, believing in pretty much
everything
I was told, giving hundreds if not thousands of vaccines out to my patients.
Hepatitis B vaccines in particular.
Flu shots for sure.
I was a nephrologist, kidney specialist in dialysis, et cetera.
And initially, you know, we all kind of have an aversion to needles.
I think it's a natural human aversion.
So when we're kids, we don't, no one's going, oh, I want to go get my vaccines.
We're like, you know, okay, fine, sore arm.
You get over it.
Most of us were lucky enough to get over it.
So by the time the first instance of a problem occurred in front of my eyes, I
was already
a fully seasoned professor of medicine, you know, working in a tertiary care
medical center.
Okay.
And so it's been a bit of a process because for me, it was the influenza
vaccines in 2008,
2009 that showed me without a doubt that vaccines can and do cause kidney
failure and put people
on dialysis, that that does happen.
It can cause hypertension.
So we're not told to take a vaccine history in medical school.
We're not told to even look there.
It's not even part of, especially in adults.
But when I did start looking there, I started to see more and more associations.
Let's just put it that way.
And so first I had to go down the flu vaccine bunny trail.
And every time I went down that flu vaccine bunny trail, guess what I was asked?
What about polio?
So I thought, all right, even though this has absolutely zero to do with polio,
because I'm watching people crap out in front of me after influenza vaccines,
let's see about polio.
Because I knew very little about polio, just like most people walking around
out there do,
that, you know, it was invented by this guy named Jonas Salk and it saved
humanity.
We don't see these little crippled kids anymore.
We don't have iron lungs anymore.
Yay.
Well, I would have to say that the polio bunny trail was the darkest one of all.
And so after polio then became smallpox.
And I thought, you know, we still have people walking the earth that have
experienced the polio years.
So I kind of like to stick to polio because most of the smallpox, you know,
people that would have been familiar with it are off the planet.
But there's still some doctors around that will talk about smallpox.
The guy named Thomas Mack, who's probably close to 90, who was kind of ground
zero in the 1940s
and knows a lot about it and still says we shouldn't be vaccinating for smallpox
today.
So then there was that.
And then everyone and their dog was talking about autism.
And I didn't really want to have anything to do with autism because I was an
adult doctor.
I think we should break down step by step.
Like, what about polio?
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Because you said polio.
Once we've breached that, because that's the big one.
Yeah.
Right?
This is the one that everybody points to.
We don't have crippled kids.
Yeah.
When you look at the historical timeline of polio, what do you think caused it
to go, to essentially not be a problem anymore?
Okay.
You don't think vaccinations had anything to do with that?
Well, I also, it's not what I think, because that's the thing.
Like, look, when I got into this, I didn't say, oh, you know, I want to argue
that vaccines are great.
I said, look, I don't care.
I didn't have skin in the game.
I didn't have vaccine-injured kids.
I couldn't have cared less about it, essentially, except that it was something
in front of me and it didn't make sense.
So I thought, wherever the truth falls, that's what I'm going to talk about.
So what I say is that I, what the facts line up to show you is that polio is
still here.
Polio is still alive and well.
Polio is called different things today.
Whereas back in the 1940s, 1950s, the criteria for diagnosing polio were
completely different to the year that the vaccine was introduced.
The playing field, the goalposts, everything was changed so that despite the
fact that there was more paralytic polio in the years after that vaccine was
introduced,
they were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply
