Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2350 - Ryan Callaghan
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2350 - Ryan Callaghan' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2025-07-16. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2350 - Ryan Callaghan

We brought you in here hopefully we were gonna kill that public land sale deal
yeah from the big
beautiful bill we did it before we even got you in here well I mean we're not
out of the woods yet
is the reality yeah I mean we're I I was hoping that you and I were gonna we're
gonna team up and tee
off on these sons of bitches and watch it die together that would have been
ideal I think it's
dead it's it is dead it is dead but we're a long way from this stuff being dead
ever dead ever yeah
right exactly it's got to be dead forever that's not it's not theirs to sell it's
very unique to the
United States it's an amazing thing that we have and I don't think people in
other countries
understand this I don't think people in America even understand how unique it
is like our public
lands what what they did when they set that up not just national parks but all
the public lands we
created this insane resource is beautiful resource where we can go into the
mountains into the woods
and and enjoy nature and it's ours it's it's all of ours and I get I mean the
amount of response from
listeners that live outside the country and and to a person they're like are
you guys really gonna screw
this up there yeah how how do people not know how do people not appreciate what
you guys have don't
turn into this country or this country or this country basically any other
country outside of Canada and
the US I think the real issue is the people in America that don't experience it
and don't go there
and don't know how insanely unique this situation is like I don't know how to
say Chamath's last name
Polly Hoppedia is that how you say it even he was tweeting this is a great deal
sell the land and you
know we'll make some money like what the fuck are you talking about man like
you know you don't
understand like that this this was an incredible gift that they gave us when
they set America up this
way oh yeah and it's not that they need to go out and experience they can also
understand just where
food comes from right how we get cold water and fresh water in our taps that
public resource is working on
our behalf 24/7 365 always has been and always will be as long as we don't
screw it up right
so it's not just the recreational part of it it is I mean it it is no different
than if you want to
think of it in these terms than some you know one arm jack pumping oil out of
the ground like it is
constantly working on our behalf and it it being public land needs to be intact
an intact
ecosystem to do its job and there's less and less of it every year so like for
instance right like
America's grasslands we're leaving we are losing two million acres and grasslands
are kind of like
a catch-all phrase a little bit but it'd be like sagebrush ecosystem short
grass prairie mixed grass prairie
but we're losing two million acres a year it's the most threatened ecosystem
not just in the u.s but
in the entire planet and people are like oh it's just grass how are we losing
that development
really well there's development but also encroachment of tree species so cedars
junipers stuff like that
working their way back out on to the prairie to the plain and we used to have
all these natural deforesters
foresters out there bison that wouldn't allow those trees to grow because they
like rubbing up on stuff
and and they'll destroy them so uh you know millions of bison out there
physically removing or preventing
that tree encroachment onto the plain those trees are sucking water out of the
ground making it more arid
more dry water table goes down uh you lose a lot of species diversification and
people just do not know joe they just don't know and they look at it and they're
like it's just grass
yeah i never knew that it was two million acres a year how many acres in the
united states
about 2.23 billion acres in the u.s so that that's a lot like two million acres
a year is a lot two
million acres a year is a is a lot and like i was hacking on jamie for his uh
golf swing right we got
about he's got a solid golf swing you gotta leave him alone about all i got is
leave him alone he
can he can swing uh jamie what's the longest drive you've ever hit it over i
mean 310 whatever 305
that's legit as but i've done it that's legit right i don't play golf but i i
think that's pretty
legit i'm nodding my head because i'm like yeah i have no idea 300 that's a lot
they've set someone
up to hit over 600 yards before but wow it's like with the wind and the
elevation and elevation helps
a lot right like montana or something like that i could hit it 400 yards in
montana really i have on
the simulator oh oh that's interesting simulator oh the simulator accounts for
that yeah but you don't
have to dodge bears on the simulator two million acres of golf courses in the u.s
is there two million
acres okay so that's a good way to look at it like right all the golf courses
in the united states
get lost every year in grassland exactly wow yeah wow that's a good way to put
it right yeah yeah and
so we talk in as far as like the public estate right we have 640 million acres
is the the number
that you hear all the time 83 million of those are our national parks but
thanks to the great state
of alaska you can hunt inside the boundary of some national parks up there to
the tune of about like
43 million acres big big chunks right um and then you you know remove a little
for structures roads uh
you know we have over 400 000 miles of road on forest service and blm ground
wow i mean
it's a lot a lot it's a lot a lot right and then when we get into like talking
about like the budgeting
of things like blm forest service they're maintaining a lot of stuff that
people take for granted um
and then you know so we're down to like 580 million acres of what i would
consider like usable and then you
consider what those acres can actually produce right which you know if you go
to a super arid state
you need a lot more land to support uh like mammal ungulate type life than you
do in a state that's
got a lot more water yeah that's growing a lot of a lot of food in a smaller
amount of space right now
so to make things palatable for people we're always doing the work of like dumbing
things down dumbing
down the messaging and yeah you're right like people don't know they don't know
because we try to
distill things into like all public land yeah right but it is so diverse which
is what makes it amazing
and that diversity provides all this opportunity and one of the things that
that people need to
keep in mind is we have nothing but bad examples all these other countries have
gone the complete
opposite way of what we have now and one of america's largest exports it are is
hunters like we we send
hunters all over the world to support these other economies and what we have
here at home
is insanely valuable and it just becomes more and more valuable because we have
large intact ecosystems
that you just more and more cannot find anywhere else right yeah and i just i
wish more people
appreciated it i wish more people experienced it there's just too many people
that just are landlocked
and what i mean by landlocked i mean in cities urban locked is probably the
best term for it there's just
too many people that just don't go out they don't they don't know how amazing
it is it's like i always
say that it's it's like a vitamin that you didn't know you needed you know you
get out into the real
wild the real woods it's a it's a it's some kind of a nutrient that you didn't
know you needed
oh man i was just up on uh went up to the arctic went up to arctic national
wildlife refuge to check
that place out and 24 hours of sun right land in the midnight sun uh never gets
dark and i was the
only person on that trip who didn't bring like some sort of an eye cover to
sleep with
and and i just can't tell you like how hard and good i slept up there like
really even without all
over myself and it's just clean air and lots of space man it was magical
magical how do you sleep with
no eye cover i swear to god joe man when it was time to go to bed and it
started out like bed was at
10 30 and then bed was at 2 30 in the morning and then bed was 3 a.m um because
you would get
as that sun's kind of like making this low orbit um i'm sure you've seen like
the time lapses of the
sun like kind of does a little dip yeah you get this like hazy gorgeous light
that you just wanted to
stay up and and see um but i'd close my eyes and and i could see like the sun
going down to darkness and
in my brain because it was just time to go to bed it was really bizarre and
then if i had to wake up
for something it was bright light and i couldn't figure out why yeah but i mean
it was so cathartic
man like we've been running so hard and because of this public lands battle
that we've been in
um i think most people are like oh god it just popped up last week and then we
crushed it and big win
and a little larger group of people or smaller group of people is like oh it
started in the house
about six weeks ago and then there's a real small group of people who are like
august 24th
the state of utah submitted a lawsuit for uh the united states supreme court to
take 18 and a half
million acres of blm land in utah august 2024 is when we were like oh my god we
got to be on top of this
this is what's coming coming um trump's going to win the election it's going to
set all these
things up and we're going to be in this fight yeah and people were like i don't
even know why you're
talking about this this isn't a big deal i'm like oh it is a big deal this is
happening well it's such
a slippery slope too this is what people don't know or don't appreciate if you
say oh it's only like
one million acres we'll sell off one million acres it'll help fix the debt no
it's not the debt's 37
trillion dollars it's you're not going to fix the debt by selling off public
land and if you open up
that slippery slope to these vampire developers they're going to keep doing it
they're going to keep
sucking on that blood until there's nothing left until it's just the national
parks oh we preserved
yellowstone oh great and in that quite literally yeah you know like mike lee is
like the figurehead of
this yeah right now um he's on the record saying we're going to sell everything
we need to sell
everything that's the plan we're going to retain the national parks and maybe a
couple other things
like and he's been on the record for damn near 20 years saying this stuff what
is
who's paying him there's a lot there's a lot there right like where he grew up
in utah there's a lot
of like um well that's where it's from right yeah and he was the he was the guy
we were fighting a few
years ago exactly yeah yeah i mean that's exactly why i dug this shirt out joe
yeah i got one of those
somewhere yeah i wore this shirt on your show the last time this was happening
oh yeah right that's
right it was happening back then that was like what five years ago oh i mean
six years in california and
it was five years ago i moved here so it had to be six or seven years ago yeah
exactly right and it's
just it's cyclical yeah and i swear to god people didn't pay attention this utah
lawsuit we were i went
back to uh dc for you know steve's on the board for teddy roosevelt
conservation partnership trcp
they have a policy meeting that i tried to go to uh twice two or three times a
year and um
where i was in there with all these people that are super smart and went to
school for all this stuff
and a couple of us were like why is nobody why is nobody talking about this why
is nobody concerned
about this and then this idea of selling public lands got really conflated with
like oh my god
if you talk about anything that's going on with the federal government you're
anti-trump
and it was just this ultra politicized hot potato we're like no no public lands
they're for everybody
like this is a non-partisan thing we've been talking about it since august here's
this lawsuit
like they're selling land that belongs 