Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2374 - Ben van Kerkwyk
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Joe Rogan Experience #2374 - Ben van Kerkwyk

Joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan experience train by day Joe Rogan
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night all day Ben so excited to talk to you man I have been so looking forward
to this
since I saw your video on the labyrinth in Egypt spoiler alert there appears to
be a 40 meter long
metallic tic-tac shaped object how deep into the ground it's in that so it's in
the central atrium
which we'll get into what that is but somewhere in the realm of 60 70 meters so
man what's that in
feet like 200 feet 150 to 180 feet down something like that so for anybody who's
interested what is
the name of that video that you put out I think it's the ancient structure like
it's said to be
greater than the pyramids I try to tease it a little bit it's it's it's on that
it's on my
channel I mean it was a good tease you got me thank you I dove right in and I
remember I was in the gym
while I was watching it and I literally stopped working out I was like okay I
gotta pause this
because this is not something that I can consume while I'm working on I need to
like really pay
attention to this because it's so wild yeah and I honestly that I'm grateful
for how like that video
took off like it for me it took off way bigger than than ones that I've done in
the past I talked about
the labyrinth in the past and it's it's a much longer video and uh I was I was
really glad to get
the chance to dive into these details because I've been wanting to revisit the
labyrinth for a long
time however there's just been recently a bunch of new data that came up about
things that happened
a decade or two ago well in yeah inside the last decade that really changed
that picture and that was
it was things like the Merlin Burroughs scans that that correlated other scans
and also reported on
yeah there seems to be a metallic object down there and this isn't you know
this isn't sort of crazy
emerging science this is a legitimate company that is using technology that's
been well established
in defense and in in the UK defense it came out of the the UK military as a
technology that's been
more or less proven so and the guy that that Tim Akers rest in peace
unfortunately he's since passed but
he uh you know what he said about this object like he's he is a credible guy to
to say this he
he doesn't draw conclusions about what it might be but it's definitely it's not
wood it's not stone
it's metal it's not unlike other metal that he's seen although they couldn't
classify what exact type
of metal it is but he said yeah there is a in this central atrium because the labyrinth
has multiple
levels and it's it's almost like you're imagining yourself standing in a
shopping mall and and and you have
that central atrium where you can see all these levels and it's like this big
central chamber that
connects to these multiple levels that's open it's at least 40 meters long it's
really tall and in the
center of it is what it's more than 40 because it contains this single sort of
40 piece 40 meter long
object that's sitting in there so how did you find out about the labyrinth like
this is something that
has been talked about for a long time thousands of years yeah but no one it's
not in any like
traditional archaeology books it's not it is is it yeah yeah no it is so the labyrinth
is kind of this
this is the other part that draw that drew me to it uh is that it isn't
something that's coming out of
left field right it's it's not like this oh no one ever heard of this before it's
literally a structure
that was written about extensively over hundreds of years in antiquity by
authors like herodotus
diodorus siculus pliny the elder strabo polonius meller like there's there's
all of these these
writers of antiquity and you're talking about time frames from like 500 bc up
to the first century a.d
had visited it and they'd they'd written about it and talked about it and they
gave it this legend
being like guys like herodotus said that it surpasses the pyramids in grandeur
and then you have
yeah so this is the this is from herodotus's histories in the fifth century bc
and he says
for this i saw myself and i found it greater than words can say for if one
should put together and
reckon up all the buildings and all of the great works produced by the hellenes
the greeks
they would prove to be inferior in labor and expense to this labyrinth so he's
saying that all of the
temples of the greeks of ancient greece you've been there you've seen the acropolis
and just if you
added them all up the labor to produce them would be inferior in what it would
take to just make this
one thing in egypt the labyrinth that is underground that's underground right
how do conventional
archaeologists approach this do they discuss this at all yes they do it's it's
been discussed based
what happened was so you had they always we always kind of knew where it was so
you know you have
the the classical authors of antiquity which coincides with what you might call
the ptolemaic period
of ancient egypt it's a transition from like dynastic egypt into becoming
essentially a roman
province like an imperial province of rome and that runs you up to about you
know four or five hundred
a.d and then sort of you know civilization has we have the dark ages sort of
have roman empire collapses
and it's not until again you get to the renaissance and you have uh artists and
other authors are
looking at these historical accounts and they're talking about it they're
drawing it some of the
depictions you see from the labyrinth are in that and then again not until the
emergence of what i
would call modern archaeology in the 18th century so guys like carl lepsius in
the 1700s started to
look at these accounts and go and survey the place where they said it was so it
you know herodotus and
these authors i selected the quotes here to just there's a lot more that they
say about it but one of the
things they talk about is they kind of give descriptions of where it is they
say it's near
what was called lake moiris and um and it's near the what uh a city that was
the the temple of the
crocodiles crocodylopolis or or ancient arsenal is the other name for it and we
know where that is
and lake moiris sort of somewhat still exists it's much smaller now but it's in
this region called the
fayum of egypt so if you ever look at egypt on a map you can imagine this
desert and you have from
north to south you have this green line of the nile traces it down but on the
left side you look at
there's this leaf shaped depression that's all green it's called the fayum it's
a depression which used
to flood with the nile today they use it for agriculture and it's right at that
neck of the
fayum where it connects up to the nile valley and he also described it they
also described the pyramid
that's at the site because there is the pyramid to aminem the third on that
site so they give us all
these descriptors and everyone kind of agreed yeah so it's at this place called
hawara where i've been
to several times there's still a pyramid there and there's this great fields of
sand and and like
little open air libraries with chunks of stone and what happened was like carl
lepsius went there and
he said well i've discovered the ruins of like a roman town that's built on the
surface there's nothing
crazy about it flinders petrie was the guy who kind of got the closest now petrie
went there in the late
1800s and early 1900s and he was excavating he dug down seven or eight meters
he got down and he found
this massive stone slab of beton or plaster that was huge like a thousand feet
long like it was he
sort of traced the edges of it and he's like i'm standing on the foundation of
the labyrinth so what
he said he's like it's all gone like it's basically petrie said it's been quarried
this place has been a
source of stone for literally millennia so it's gone so pretty much everyone
since then in archaeology
egyptology is like and if you look on wikipedia they'll tell you oh it's it's
gone it was destroyed
it was quarried away petrie says you know i'm standing on the the foundation of
it the bottom
layer and that's it it's there's nothing here and so that's always been kind of
the position of
orthodox egyptology look in the textbooks that's where it is but that's all
changed because there's been
a whole bunch of different now scientific expeditions there this is where it
gets into some intrigue
because the the the matahar expedition the kora university expedition i mean
these these happened
their results have come out since but they were covered up at the time that was
suppressed so the
first guy to what year was this 2008 was the matahar expedition they were
covered up yes this episode
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yeah so what what is our
boy zawi yeah it is zahi sorry it was and again not my words this is the words
of louis de cordier who
was he's a belgian artist and entrepreneur who who funded and drove the matahar
expedition he did it
in conjunction with the supreme council antiquities which at the time was helmed
by zahi huas
also with the nrig which is the national research institute for like um like
basically subsurface
studies so that's those guys dragging that box around so they used a whole
bunch of different
techniques to look at these areas around that pyramid at the site of huara
things like ground
penetrating radar geomagnetism very low frequency like seismic tomography
electrical resistivity
tomography there's there's a bunch of different techniques that are well
established known science
this isn't like the cuff rest can stuff where it's like you can debate the the
merits of the technology
this is established technology and they found the labyrinth so and what he
found was is that yes so
what lepsia said about the ruins of a roman or greek or persian town with mud
bricks and stuff yep
that's there in the first few meters you go down then you hit the water table
so that's the other issue
on this side is the water table so the water's at like five meters below the
surface and under that
is the slab that petrie found so like six seven meters is that that huge slab
that petrie found
that he thought was the foundation and then below that petrie didn't dig deep
enough below that we
can find essentially a labyrinthian structure of granite and very very dense
rocks and walls and and um
like a maze-like structure that's that has walls that are meters thick there's
another great slide in
there that's that's the green and it's the actual vlf right that's it there so
yeah so this is at eight
meters with vlf sounding so you can see like this labyrinthian structure of
these walls and all of
these lines and walls these are like granite and the scale of this it's a
hundred meters vertically by
150 meters 100 meters tall well no so vertically no no so the the y-axis i
guess of this so we're 