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Joe Rogan Experience #2384 - Mark Kerr

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Good.
Mark, what's happening?
Thank you, Joe.
Dude, the movie's fantastic.
And I know I told you outside, but I wanted to save it.
I kind of had a little bit of a prejudice when I went to see the movie.
I was like, okay, it's going to be an MMA movie.
Yeah.
But it's not.
It's a movie that happens to be about MMA, but it's a great movie.
Oh, I appreciate that.
It's really good, man.
It's like, you know, it's very gripping, and the performances are fantastic.
And the way The Rock did you was nuts.
I, like, I can't explain it.
I keep using the word surreal, but it doesn't describe it.
Like I was saying, my son, when he watched it,
and just flipping out, like, talking to me, like, on the side, like I was
saying, like,
literally, just going, Dad, Dad, he's got your mannerisms.
He's got your speech mannerisms.
But you imagine, like, I'm picturing my son.
He's in New York when he watched it.
Right.
And so I'm picturing him in the corner of the lobby of the theater,
talking with his back to everybody, going, oh, my God, Dad, like, it's like a
doppelganger.
He's got all of it.
You know, like, full-blown, like, it was like the, the, the, because a lot of
my saying for
myself is, I'm, I can't see the forest through the trees.
I'm in the middle of it.
Am I looking at it objectively?
Am I really looking at it?
Or am I seeing something?
And to hear my son say, oh, my gosh, Dad, he nailed it.
Right.
Unbelievable.
He really did nail it.
I, like, we were saying in the lobby, like, I didn't know The Rock could act
that well.
You know, it's really good acting.
It's not like blockbuster movie acting, which is, he's great at that.
But it's a different thing.
It's completely, so with DJ, I kept trying to say to him, you don't have to do
this, dude.
Like, you don't have to do this.
And he would, he would stop me and he would go, yeah, I do.
What do you mean by you don't have to do this?
So meaning that, like, he's at a, he's at a, he's at a place in his life where
he can
just keep doing blockbusters and be perfectly fine with it.
There's, there, I mean, he says it himself.
There's always a place for that.
There's always going to be a place for blockbuster movies and, and for that.
But he needed to do something different.
He needed to do something different.
Well, it's the perfect role if you want to do something different for him,
because it's
a very complex role and it's about a giant dude.
And that's him.
So it's like really like the perfect way.
Because otherwise, if you're built like he is, it's very hard to get work as a
serious
actor.
And this might be like the only opportunity to show people like, Hey, I can
actually act.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think he did it.
He did an amazing job.
I mean, to the, to the point where like Emily, unbelievable.
She's great.
She plays such a crazy bitch.
Oh my God, man.
She's so good.
Oh my God.
She's so good at playing crazy.
Oh my God.
It gave me anxiety.
Like sometimes like when you're getting ready to fight and she's starting
arguments.
I'm like, Oh my God.
I'm getting anxiety.
So here's what was he.
So it vet.
So I saw a 80% complete version of the film in, in January of this year.
And then, um, and then the first time I see a complete version of it was in
Venice.
And so I'm in Venice and there's Benny on my right and there's DJ on my left
and there's
Emily next to a DJ in the last scene of the movie.
Right.
That intensity of that scene.
I'm just telling you, it was like, I said it was therapy for me because I think
for the
first time I could actually, I could actually see my part in it.
Like I could see my part, how fucking hard I was on the people around me.
You know, how just singularly driven I was to accomplish something at, at all
costs.
And the person that paid it the most was Dawn.
She paid a heavy price, you know, and you know, anybody that's successful, you
know, for
me, I was trying to raise everybody up, you know, everybody around me.
And it was just as selfish endeavor.
And I could see it in those moments.
I could see it in what, who DJ was, you know, and who Emily was in the
intensity.
And I was like, fuck.
Well, it's such a crazy task to try to be an elite MMA fighter at a time where
there was
no, no one even knew what it was.
No.
I mean, you, when you first, I met you in 97, there's a crazy photo of us.
I saw that.
Dude, 97, that's like 30 years ago almost, isn't that nuts?
So this is what's fucking crazy.
So trying to describe what I did back then, like people, their jaws would hang
open.
Right.
They would go, you do what?
Like, why would you do that?
That's us.
Look at that.
1997, dude, that's so crazy.
Oh my God.
So crazy.
Oh my God.
Were they even paying you back then?
A little bit.
They paid me a little bit.
Oh my God.
It wasn't a lot of money.
But it was, for me, it was just for fun.
It was like, I was a giant fan of the sport.
And what happened was Campbell McLaren, do you remember Campbell?
Yeah.
He was good friends with my manager, Jeff.
And they were just talking and he said, we need a guy to do backstage
interviews, post-fight
interviews.
And he goes, Joe really loves the sport.
He's like, really?
He goes like, oh yeah.
He follows all the fights in Japan.
He's like, and so for me, it was just fun.
I mean, it wasn't, it was actually costing me money, which is why I wound up
quitting.
Because I quit and I did it for like a year and a half, two years maybe.
And then in 98, I was like, I can't do this anymore.
I'm just, it's just actually costing me money.
And so then when I started doing Fear Factor, that's when Zufa bought it and I
wound up
working for them again.
But in those days, it was, for me, it was a dream.
Because as a lifelong martial artist, when I was a kid, there was always the
big question,
what was the best style?
And no one knew until Horry and Gracie put it all together and decided to
create the UFC.
And then all of a sudden we get to see it.
And then obviously you had Japan Valley Tudo and then Pride and all these big
events over
in Japan.
And it became, to me, it was like, finally someone did it.
That was, so part of my first fights in Brazil, I was still brainwashed by the
idea that,
oh shit, he's seven foot tall or six nine.
He's the toughest dude in the room.
Right.
Because that's how I grew up, right?
Or 10th degree black belt, same thing.
Right, right, right.
Oh, no, no, no, no, don't mess with him.
Yeah.
And in one where that first time I fought, I was still under the delusion that
that was
the truth.
And so my trainer kept going, oh, trust me, you're going to do fine.
Trust me, you're going to do fine.
And it's just like, he understood what I was as a wrestler, you know, that I
can impose,
like I should tell you, the best definition I've ever had for a wrestler is I
can hold a
growing ass man where he doesn't want to be held for as long as I want to hold
him there
and he can't do a fucking thing about it.
Exactly.
That's a wrestler.
And you can dictate where the fight takes place always.
So if you become a wrestler like Chuck Liddell, then you say, no, no, no, you
can't take me
down.
So I'm just going to beat the fuck out of you standing and there's nothing you
can do about
it.
Not, not a single thing.
It's the most important skill.
Oh my God.
It's foundational.
Foundational.
And, and that's why there's so much success for, for the deck.
Um, I, I'm going to blank on the names, but, uh, the, the wrestlers are, it's a
resurgence
of like really what a foundational piece it is and how important it is when you
have a high,
high, you know what they're able to do too, as a wrestler.
I always just look at the Russian wrestlers and go, what makes them so good?
They could flurry in succession more times than I could like Kurt Angle, right?
When I wrestled against Kurt, Kurt trained at a level that I wasn't training at.
He could sustain a flurry to the point where I would just make mistakes because
I would be
to exhaustion and you watch them.
These, they'll string these moves together and string them together.
Oh my God.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable, because you'll see, you'll see him shoot, reshoot, shoot again,
get up,
stand up, fake, shoot again.
And you can't keep up with it.
You just, and inevitably you just make mistakes or you just give into the
exhaustion of the
moment.
Right?
Yeah.
And it's just like, okay, nothing you can do about it.
And when a guy has an insane, insane cardio with those kinds of skills, it is
the toughest
combination to be like Cain Velasquez in his prime.
Oh my God.
Insane cardio, elite wrestling, and then elite MMA standup skills as well.
It's scary.
The cardio is the scariest thing because when you're scared to hit the gas,
like three
more minutes in the round and you see Cain is just fucking bobbing around.
And like, he's not even breathing heavy in between rounds, his stomach's not
even heaving.
He's a big dude.
He's 240.
He's not even tired.
It doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
It defies logic.
But there's guys like that that have that fucking insane cardio, you know?
I mean, I don't know how much you're following the UFC, but there's this kid
Anthony Hernandez
in the middleweight division that's nuts.
And then you got Marab, Rob Dobish-Willi, who's like the best example of it.
Unstoppable.
So, this is kind of, again, one of these things where there's certain athletes
that have
a gear that nobody else has.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's just how they're built.
It's just how they're built.
Well, I remember when you came along and when Coleman came along, all of a
sudden everybody's
like, I gotta get on steroids.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
But he's like, I gotta get bigger.
I gotta get bigger.
That's when Vitor got up to like 240 pounds.
Oh, my God.
He was big.
He was big.
Way too big for his frame.
I mean, you're talking about a guy who eventually wound up fighting at 185.
Yeah.
Right?
I mean, he finished his career up at 85, and he was there at 240 when he fought
Randy the
first time.
Yeah.
Which was bananas.
So, that night was my last UFC.
That was UFC 15.
Ah, wow.
And that's when Randy beat Vitor.
Mm-hmm.
And it was one of those where I'm like, oh, just wait.
Because I know what Randy is.
Right.
Randy's cardio.
Mm-hmm.
Randy was like, he can take it.
And it was one of those things where I was like, I don't think Victor's gonna
win.
Right.
It's just that it's styles.
And that's what we called him back then.
His name was Victor.
Yeah, Victor.
When he first came into the UFC, his first fight, when he was fighting in
Hawaii, he was
Victor Gracie.
Oh, snap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was going by the last name Gracie.
And then I think he got sued or threatened with a lawsuit.
And then he changed it to Victor Belfort because, like, Horian was very litigious.
Yeah, yeah.
He was, like, very protective of the Gracie name.
And so he fought John Hess in Hawaii and beat the living shit out of him.
Rumble on the Rock stuff or whatever it was.
I don't think it was Rumble on the Rock.
That was BJ's promotion and that was later.
This was, like, really early on.
This was, I don't know who the fuck was doing that event, but it was just in a
ring.
And Vitor came out and blitzed him with punches and nobody had seen anything
like that before.
Like, oh, God.
This is a...
Because everybody thought Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.
Yeah.
You don't think you're going to have a guy with his hands like that.
Oh, my God.
His hand speed was unreal.
He was so fast.
Unreal.
And accurate.
Yeah.
Like, you can be fast, and that's one thing, but fast and actually hitting the
target when the target's bobbing and weaving, it's like, oh, my God, man.
He's an interesting case study because he's, like, first of all, pioneer, right?
First fought in the UFC when he was 19 years old.
Crazy.
And, you know, went through, won the tournament at 19, which is just bananas.
And then when we got to see him kind of, he got off the sauce and his body kind
of f