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JRE MMA Show #170 with Michael "Venom" Page

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We're up.
All right.
MVP in the house.
The most enigmatic, difficult dude to solve in all of MMA.
That's you, man.
Bro, you know what?
I always, I want to start simply because what you have done for me specifically,
I get a lot of criticism, a lot of hate, and especially, obviously, jumping
when I first got into the MMA world.
New to me, you know, I'm just like, okay, let me just be myself, do my thing.
First fight goes well, land this crazy kick, goes viral, and I get nothing but
hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
But then having prominent figures like yourself that are constantly have been
championing my style, championing the points element of things, I just
appreciate you for that.
Oh, my pleasure, brother.
I appreciate you.
It's almost like we called for you because there was a time in the early days
of MMA, like in the early 2000s, where I was like, this is what's missing.
What's missing is point fighters, and people would, like, mock me.
I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no.
Like, I've sparred with these dudes.
You can't hit them.
It's a different thing.
I'm like, they have a very specific skill, that skill of closing distance and
being elusive.
It's not like any other sport.
It's almost like fencing and MMA combined or martial arts combined.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I always tell people that, like, most of the combat sports in
terms of kickboxing, the full contact side of things is more to do with the,
there's a fixation on power knocking people out.
Whereas our element is just the speed element.
Yeah.
Just getting in and getting out.
Yeah.
Not getting in touch.
Like you said, the tag, tag kind of feel, fencing, similar kind of footwork.
And, yeah, just not many people had decided to cross over to any kind of full
contact world, really.
And you had the likes of Wonderboy Thompson.
Raymond Daniels.
Raymond Daniels.
Yeah.
You and Raymond were the most prominent ones.
Him and Glory.
Yeah.
Of course, you.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he did a little bit of MMA.
A little bit of MMA.
Yeah, but you're more prominent in MMA.
The point was that this was an element that when, I remember when I was doing
Taekwondo and I would fight in tournaments, I would occasionally fight in point
fighting tournaments.
Yeah.
And I'd fight a guy like Mafia Holloway or one of these guys that were really
good.
I'm like, this is crazy.
This is such a crazy skill.
Very different.
And when I saw MMA where a lot of guys were just, like, real flat-footed and
waiting, I'm like, there's a giant opening here.
Yeah.
And then you came along.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you really were the proof of concept.
And I was like, okay, this is it.
You get a world champion at that who figures all the other stuff out because
essentially striking is striking.
You know, you can learn throwing leg kicks differently.
You can learn, you know, different stances and movements.
The grappling is the big heat.
That's the big hurdle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But once you can solve the takedown defense and some of the grappling hurdles,
and you've actually got some mission victories, then you've got a real problem
because every fight starts standing up.
Exactly.
Every fight starts standing up with a big-ass fucking cage.
It's a big-ass cage.
And I see guys like Kevin Holland, like, he's like, what the fuck do I do with
this guy?
He hated every moment of it.
Oh, yeah.
I could feel it.
But that's just part of my style is that kind of frustrating people because it's
just so unfamiliar.
For someone like yourself, you would kind of be in there.
Whether you're successful or not, you'd understand what's happening.
And you'd be calm enough still to be like, okay, I need to know how to figure
this out because I've experienced this before.
Yeah.
For someone that's never experienced it, because there's few of us in the MMA
world, who do you go to to train?
There's very few people that are really good at that.
Yeah.
And like I said, Wonderboy Thompson, he, you know, a friend of mine, obviously
me and him and, you know, us getting on.
And he's even said people have contacted him, like, oh, yeah, I'm fighting MVP.
Like, I want to train with you.
He's like, I want MVP to win, so.
I can't help you, bro.
I can't do anything.
Well, it's good for the sport.
Yeah.
It really is because, you know, like, think about there's certain techniques
that just come along like the calf kick.
And all of a sudden, like, how is this?
People have been kicking legs for so long.
How is this kicking a different spot on the leg kind of revolution?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We need to see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think the introduction of you is going to make a lot of these guys that
are, like, high-level point guys go,
hmm, there's a spot there for me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because the opening, like, there's always an advantage in the fact that every
round starts standing up.
As long as you have takedown defense, every round starts in your realm.
And your realm is different than all the other stand-up realms.
It's totally different.
And if a guy is a plodding guy and he thinks, oh, this is my world, like, that's
not your world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not your, it's your world against someone who agrees to fight the way you
fight.
100%.
Yeah.
And I always say that is because I, you know, I've come up against guys and I
was like, man, he can, he's got big, big hit, a big punch on him.
And I agree.
I'm like, yeah, I get it.
But power only means something if you land.
Yeah.
And my whole element is, like, not being touched.
It's also fucking with people's heads.
Yeah.
One of the things you did during the Jared Cannoneer fight, after you hit him,
you were like, calm down.
Calm down.
I was like, oh, no.
Because you imagine just getting popped, your eyes are running, your nose hurts.
And this dude standing in front of you going, calm down.
Calm down.
Like, no, he didn't.
Oh, no.
It's psychological warfare.
But that's the end, that's obviously, that's kind of like part of my
personality coming out and the entertaining side of me.
And a lot, obviously, added to the criticism that I would get, which, because
of how I would make my opponents feel in terms of their frustration and then,
obviously, the antics on top of it, so many people, the main term that came
with me was like, oh, he's fighting Cannes.
He's fighting Cannes.
My whole career was, oh, he's fighting Cannes.
He's like, he can't, but I always say to people is, I'm just making it seem a
lot less difficult than it actually is.
These guys are super talented fighters.
I'm just not fighting on the same wavelength and timing as them.
As you said, these guys that plod around, they're so used to it.
So when they're fighting other people, it looks very even.
And when they're fighting somebody that they just can't get their hands on and
they're getting frustrated on top of that.
So there's the mental side, the physical side.
And you have a lot of power, so there's consequences.
Yeah, there's consequences.
It's not like you're tippy-tappy, kip-patting them.
Every now and then, like the cyborg fight was one of the craziest knockouts in
all of MMA history.
And, you know, one thing I actually wanted to do, I actually brought some gifts
for you, but one of the things I actually wanted to bring for you was.
Don't tell him you brought a piece of his head.
He wouldn't let me have that, so, yeah.
I have to leave it.
I actually wanted to, we basically had a Poké Ball come.
It was a very specific one.
And they messed up on delivery.
But I'm going to get it to you in Vegas.
Okay.
So when we go over to Vegas, I'm just making sure.
I get that to you because, again, it's something that you've spoken about with
me.
And it's a big part of my history in MMA, just that cyborg fight.
Girl, that was the most gruesome injury I've ever seen.
I've seen a lot of broken bones.
I've never seen someone with a caved-in head.
Yeah, yeah.
The doctors were saying that, what we were hearing back from them, they said he's
only ever seen that in a car accident.
Never in MMA.
That is so crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And that was his last fight.
And I know after the fight, he was like, we're going to fight again.
The doctor's like, hey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I think he was.
Someone sent me something where he was supposed to fight again.
And then I'm not sure what happened there.
But yeah, he didn't.
It was crazy.
How could you fight again after that?
I felt very bad, obviously, at the time as well.
But then I didn't see him for another two years.
Here it is right here.
Boom.
That was just crazy.
And the sound, the sound of that was.
It's only when I watched it back.
Give me the sound, Jamie.
It's hard to breathe.
So just about everything you need in a fight, you lose off the liver shot.
It can't.
Cyborg runs into a junkie, and it's over.
It sounds like a baseball bat on a pumpkin.
You know what I mean?
Just whop.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh.
Yeah, it was different.
The thing is, I didn't know.
I keep telling everybody.
I didn't know what happened.
Because obviously, they're like, you celebrated, like, threw the pokeball at
him afterwards.
I did not know.
You thought it was just a knockout.
Yeah, it was a knockout.
And obviously, because I'm kicking his legs, I'm assuming maybe I broke his
nose.
Because I can see he's not out, but he's in pain.
It must be something like that.
It's only the next day that I found out.
But yeah, it was a bad one.
That was a bad one.
Yeah, it was a very bad one.
And the thing is, like I said, I met him, I want to say like two, two and a
half years
later down the line.
Obviously, this clip's just been going crazy online and so on and so forth.
And I just, I felt awkward.
I didn't want to.
But also, he had come over for another MMA show, but with one of his students.
But one of his students was fighting one of my teammates.
And at the beginning, my coaches were like, oh, do you want to, you know, go
and at some
point, go and see him and say hello?
I was like, yeah, please, like I'd love to because that's the last time I saw
him.
The fight happens and my teammate is known for his leg locks and breaks his
student's leg.
So I'm like, for fuck's sake.
Oh, God.
So the officers were like, do you want to go and see him?
I was like, yeah, yeah, I'll try.
I just, I just felt like I needed to.
Sure.
And I kind of walked into the room.
His guy's obviously upset for losing.
He's like getting sorted out by the medics and he's sitting there, just looks
at me and
I'm like, hey, what do you say?
Like, unlucky.
Like, I was just like, he's like shook my hand.
Like, I could just feel the energy wasn't right.
It just wasn't the right time.
But I didn't know when I would get to see him again.
And I haven't again since.
So, yeah.
I just felt, it's just one of those things that just felt bad.
Yeah.
But what do you do?
There's nothing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do you do?
What do you do?
Guy's got a broken leg.
You broke his head.
It's just, stay the fuck away from you and your crew.
I mean, at least you're nice about it and friendly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is what it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's such an intro because you've trained with Marius, my coach is one of my
coaches.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And obviously he says to say hello.
Tell myself that.
I love that dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He said he's trained with you guys.
I think you guys trained for about four years with Eddie Bravo as well.
Yeah, I've known him for 20 years.
Yeah.
Crazy, crazy.
Crazy.
And that's obviously, that's a big part of my history now with them, them two,
the brothers,
Alexis and Marius.
Were you at the gym when?
Lee.
When Lee Murray was?
No.
No, no, no, no.
I was just after.
Yeah, yeah.
Just that.
Luckily.
But interestingly though, when I was in, at the time that he was around, I was
still very
heavily focused on the points fighting, kickboxing.
So, but a friend of mine was training at shoot and he was like, you n