Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2422 - Jensen Huang
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Watch the stand-up comedy video 'Joe Rogan Experience #2422 - Jensen Huang' from PowerfulJRE on Comedy Buff. Published 2025-12-03. Transcript available.

Joe Rogan Experience #2422 - Jensen Huang

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Hello, Jackson.
Hey, Joe.
Good to see you again.
We were just talking about, was that the first time we ever spoke?
Or was the first time we spoke at SpaceX?
SpaceX.
SpaceX the first time.
When you were giving Elon that crazy AI chip.
Right, DJX Spark.
Yeah, ooh, that was a big moment.
That was a huge moment.
That felt crazy to be there.
I was like watching these wizards of tech, like exchange information and you're
giving him this crazy device, you know?
And then the other time was, I was shooting arrows in my backyard and randomly
get this call from Trump and he's hanging out with you.
President Trump called and I called you.
Yeah, it's just, we were talking about you.
It's just weird that he's called.
We were talking about the UFC thing he was going to do in his front yard.
Yeah.
And he pulls out, he's like, Jensen, look at this design.
He's so proud of it.
And I go, you're going to have a fight in the front lawn in the White House?
He goes, yeah.
Yeah, you're going to come.
This is going to be awesome.
And he's showing me his design and how beautiful it is.
And he goes, and somehow your name comes up.
He goes, do you know Joe?
And I said, yeah, I'm going to be on his podcast.
He said, let's call him.
He's like a kid.
I know.
Let's call him.
It's so, he's like a 79 year old kid.
He's so incredible.
Yeah.
He's an odd guy.
Just very different.
You know, like the, what you'd expect from him, very different than what people
think of him.
And also just very different as a president.
A guy who just calls you or texts you out of the blue.
Also, he makes, when he texts you, you have an Android, so it won't go through
with you.
But with my iPhone, he makes the text go big.
Like, you know.
Is that right?
I'm going to say he's respected again.
Like, all caps and it makes the text enlarge.
It's kind of ridiculous.
Well, the, the one-on-one Trump, President Trump is very different.
He surprised me.
First of all, he's an incredibly good listener.
Almost everything I've ever said to him, he's remembered.
Yeah.
People don't, they only want to look at negative stories about him or negative
narratives about him.
You know, you can catch anybody on a bad day.
Like, there's a lot of things he does where I don't think he should do.
Like, I don't think he should say to a reporter, quiet piggy.
Like, that's pretty ridiculous.
Also, objectively funny.
I mean, it's unfortunate that it happened to her.
I wouldn't want that to happen to her, but it was funny.
Just ridiculous that the president does that.
I wish he didn't do that.
But other than that, like, he's, he's an interesting guy.
Like, he's a lot of different things wrapped up into one person, you know.
You know, part of, part of his charm, or part of his genius is just, he says
what's on his mind.
Yes.
And that's just like an anti-politician in a lot of ways.
Yeah, right.
So, you know, what's on his mind is really what's on his mind.
Which I think people prefer.
Some people, some people would rather be lied to.
Yeah, but, but I, I like the fact that he's telling you what's on his mind.
Almost every time he explains something and he says something, he starts with
his, you could tell his love for America, what he wants to do for America.
And everything that he thinks through is very practical and very common sense.
And, you know, it's very logical.
And I still remember the first time I met him.
And so this was, I'd never known him, never met him before.
And Secretary Lutnig called and we met right before, right at the beginning of
the administration.
And he said, he told me what was important to President Trump, that, that, that
United States manufactures on shore.
And that was really important to him because, because it's important to
national security.
He wants to make sure that, that the important critical technology of our
nation is built in the United States.
And that we re-industrialize and get good at manufacturing again because it's
important for jobs.
It just seems like common sense, right?
Incredible common sense.
And that was like literally the first conversation I had with Secretary Lutnig.
And, and he was talking about how, how, that he started, he started our
conversation with Jensen.
This is Secretary Lutnig.
And I just want to let you know that you're a national treasure.
NVIDIA is a national treasure.
And whenever you need access to the president, the administration, you call us.
We're always going to be available to you.
Literally, that was the first sentence.
That's pretty nice.
And it was completely true.
Every single time I called, if I needed something, I want to get something off
my chest, express some concern.
They're always available.
Incredible.
It's just unfortunate we live in such a politically polarized society that you
can't recognize good common sense things if they're coming from a person that
you object to.
And that, I think, is what's going on here.
I think most people generally, as a country, you know, as a giant community,
which we are, it just only makes sense that we have manufacturing in America,
especially critical technology like you're talking about.
Like, it's kind of insane that we buy so much technology from other countries.
If the United States doesn't grow, we will have no prosperity.
We can't invest in anything domestically or otherwise.
We can't fix any of our problems.
If we don't have energy growth, we can't have industrial growth.
If we don't have industrial growth, we can't have job growth.
It's as simple as that.
And the fact that he came into office and the first thing that he said was,
drill, baby, drill, his point is we need energy growth.
Without energy growth, we can have no industrial growth.
And that was, it saved, it saved the AI industry.
I got to tell you flat out, if not for his pro-growth energy policy, we would
not be able to build factories for AI.
We would not be able to build chip factories.
We surely won't be able to build supercomputer factories.
None of that stuff would be possible.
Without all of that, construction jobs would be challenged, right?
Electrical, you know, electrician jobs.
All of these jobs that are now flourishing would be challenged.
And so I think he's got it right.
We need energy growth.
We want to re-industrialize the United States.
We need to be back in manufacturing.
Every successful person doesn't need to have a PhD.
Every successful person doesn't have to have gone to Stanford or MIT.
And I think that that sensibility is spot on.
Now, when we're talking about technology growth and energy growth, there's a
lot of people that go, oh, no, that's not what we need.
We need to, you know, simplify our lives and get back.
But the real issue is that we're in the middle of a giant technology race.
And whether people are aware of it or not, whether they like it or not, it's
happening.
And it's a really important race because whoever gets to whatever the event
horizon of artificial intelligence is, whoever gets there first has massive
advantages in a huge way.
Do you agree with that?
Well, first, the part, I will say that we are in a technology race and we are
always in a technology race.
We've been in a technology race with somebody forever.
Right.
Right.
Since the Industrial Revolution, we've been in a technology race.
Since the Manhattan Project.
Or, you know, even going back to the discovery of energy, right?
The United Kingdom was where the Industrial Revolution was, if you will,
invented when they realized that they can turn steam and such into energy, into
electricity.
All of that was invented largely in Europe.
And the United States capitalized on it.
We were the ones that learned from it.
We industrialized it.
We diffused it faster than anybody in Europe.
They were all stuck in discussions about policy and jobs and disruptions.
Meanwhile, the United States was forming.
We just took the technology and ran with it.
And so I think we were always in a bit of a technology race.
World War II was a technology race.
Manhattan Project was a technology race.
We've been in the technology race ever since during the Cold War.
I think we're still in a technology race.
It is probably the single most important race.
It is the technology is it gives you superpowers, you know, whether it's
information superpowers or energy superpowers or military superpowers is all
founded in technology.
And so technology leadership is really important.
Well, the problem is if somebody else has superior technology, right?
Yeah.
That's the issue.
That's right.
It seems like with the AI race, people are very nervous about it.
Like, you know, Elon has famously said that it's like 80% chance it's awesome,
20% chance we're in trouble.
And people are worried about that 20%, rightly so.
I mean, you know, if you had 10 bullets in a revolver and, you know, you took
out eight of them and you still have two in there and you spin it, you're not
going to feel real comfortable when you pull that trigger.
It's terrifying.
Right.
And when we're working towards this ultimate goal of AI, it just, it's
impossible to imagine that it wouldn't be of national security interest to get
there first.
We should, the question is what's there.
That's the, that was the part.
What is there?
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
And I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody's really knows.
That's crazy though.
If I ask you, you're the head of NVIDIA.
If you don't know what's there, who knows?
Yeah.
I, I think it's probably going to be much more gradual than we think is what it
won't be a moment.
It won't be, it won't be as if somebody arrived and nobody else has.
I don't think it's going to be like that.
I think it's going to be things that just get better and better and better and
better, just like technology does.
So you are rosy about the future.
You're, you're very optimistic about what's going to happen with AI.
Obviously, will you make the best AI chips in the world?
You probably better be.
If history is a guide, we were always concerned about new technology.
Humanity has always been concerned about new technology.
There are always somebody who's thinking, there are always a lot of people who
are quite concerned, were quite concerned.
And, and, and so if, if history is a guide, it is the case that all of this
concern is channeled into making the technology safer.
And so, for example, in the last several years, I would say AI technology has
increased probably in the last two years alone, maybe a hundred X.
Let's just give it a number.
Okay.
It's like a car two years ago was a hundred times slower.
So AI is a hundred times more capable today.
Now, how did we channel that technology?
How do we channel all of that power?
We directed it to causing the AI to be able to think, meaning that it can take
a problem that we give it, break it down step by step.
It does research before it answers.
And so it grounds it on truth.
It'll reflect on that answer, ask itself, is this the best, you know, answer
that I can give you?
Am I certain about this answer?
If it's not certain about the answer or highly confident about the answer, you'll
go back and do more research.
It might actually even use a tool because that tool provides a better solution
than it could hallucinate itself.
As a result, we took all of that computing capability and we channeled it into
having it produce a safer result, safer answer, a more truthful answer.
Because as you know, one of the greatest criticisms of AI in the beginning was
that it hallucinated.
Right.
And so if you look at the reason why people use AI so much today is because the
amount of hallucination has reduced.
You know, I use it almost, I, well, I use the whole trip over here.
And so, so I think the, the, the, the capability, most people think about power
and they think about, you know, maybe as an explosion power, but the technology
power, most of it is channeled towards safety.
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