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Joe Rogan Experience #2437 - Rand Paul

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Nice to meet you, sir.
Thanks for having me.
My pleasure.
Great to be in Austin, you know.
Have you been here?
You've been here before.
You know, I grew up in Texas, and so we used to come up here for live music.
I went to Baylor, and there was no music, no dancing.
If you wanted to hear some live music, you came to Austin.
So I've been here many times.
Nice.
It's a great spot.
So here's your book, Deception, the Great Cover-Up.
You were a lone voice of reason during the pandemic that, you know, for me, you
were extremely
valuable, and I was cheering you on every step of the way when you were
grilling Anthony
Fauci.
With all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about.
That guy was driving me fucking crazy.
It was mind-numbing how many people were going along with it and how many
people just accepted
what he was saying, ignored all the evidence that pointed to gain-of-function
research, didn't
freak out when it was quite obvious that he was lying about gain-of-function
research.
I just thank God that you were grilling him, and at least it was on the record,
and we could
all watch it and see it.
One of the greatest tragedies, and we knew this within days, was that children
weren't
getting sick, but that should have been used to our advantage.
Children did not get sick.
No child without a health issue really died.
Well, they got sick, but it wasn't dangerous for them.
My kids both got it.
Right, but most of them had a very mild illness, and the point is that we knew
this in China
in the first couple of weeks, and we could have left the schools open.
And some countries left the schools open.
For the most part, Sweden left their schools open and treated this completely
different
and turned out with a similar—everybody wound up with a similar death rate
with primarily
the people dying, where people were older and overweight, or both.
Right, and the argument was, you know, you're going to bring it home, and you're
going to
infect your grandma, and she's going to die.
All right.
The argument didn't really hold water, though, because everybody got it anyway,
and so—
But we didn't know that in the beginning, right?
In the beginning, they were lying, and they were saying that—although we now
know that
there was no data that showed that the vaccine stopped infection and stopped
transmission.
But here's another thought.
You could have said, yeah, kids could take it to their grandparents, so until
the kid has
gotten it and recovered for two weeks, tell them not to visit their
grandparents.
You know what I mean?
Well, the problem was people that live with their grandparents.
Yeah, I know, and there would be the exceptions to the rule, but most of the
people—the death
rate we already knew in China was very, very small once you added in the kids.
Initially, they were saying it was a 3% death rate, which would have been
instead of 1 million people, you know, would have been significantly more—3
million people
may have died.
But they knew the death rate was less than that in China early on.
But part of the reason they thought it was so high is they weren't counting all
the asymptomatic
cases.
You know, they knew how many people were sick and how many people died, but the
denominator
was the number of people who actually were sick or who actually got the
infection, but
they weren't counting millions of people.
But Anthony Fauci denied this at every step.
He denied that natural immunity would protect you.
And one of my favorite quotes was from a guy named Martin Kulldorff.
He was an epidemiologist at Harvard who ended up getting fired.
But recently he tweeted out, it was about a year or two ago, he said, well, we
knew about
natural immunity from the time of the Athenian plague in 436 BC, and we knew
that knowledge
until 2020, and then we lost all knowledge of natural immunity.
But the good news is in 2025, we're starting to get back that knowledge.
But this was—Anthony Fauci knew better, you know?
He couldn't even read his own basic immunology books about, you know, the fact
that you do
develop immunity.
Is it perfect?
No.
Can you get COVID more than once?
Yes.
But I defy you to tell me somebody who got it the second time who died the
second time.
You know what I mean?
People got it less severely so the second time they got it if they got it at
all.
Much less severely so.
I got it twice, and the second time I couldn't even believe it was actually
COVID.
It was back when we were testing every day.
We would test all the guests, we would test all the staff before we did the
show, and I
came in and I had the sniffles.
That's it.
And they said, do you have COVID?
And I was like, this is hilarious.
And I understand you did so well because your personal doctor was Sanjay Gupta.
Bah!
That is—that clip of you and he on the program is my favorite clip of all
time.
I don't know what he thought was going to happen.
I think he just thought he was going to come in here and CNN was going to send
their medical
mercenary in with all his knowledge.
Right.
But you can't argue with someone when you can't use facts.
Right.
So he didn't have any facts at his disposal.
And he was working for a network that was openly lying about me taking veterinary
medicine.
Like the whole thing was surreal.
And for someone who is, you know, up until 2020, I mean, I was reasonably distrustful
of mainstream
news, but in a normal way.
Like I'm sure they bend things a little bit or twist things a little bit.
I would have never thought I would watch a campaign against me like that, where
every night
it was horse dewormer, horse dewormer, Joe Rogan, dangerous conspiracy theories,
COVID denier,
vaccine denier.
I was like, this is fascinating.
I think it brings up a broader question, too, that when people tell you there's
a consensus
and because the consensus exists, you cannot object.
I think that's a real danger to openness, to new ideas, but it's also a danger
in medicine
and in medicine to say this is the consensus and we're not going to do this.
So in the first month of this, maybe first or second month, Fauci comes in and
I said,
you know, many people who die from the flesh eating bacteria, which is not the
same, but
it's a serious illness, what they give them to try to treat them to prevent
death and loss
of limbs is high dose IV steroids.
And I had a friend whose life was saved.
He didn't lose any of his limbs and he had this terrible illness.
And so I asked Anthony Fauci, I said, do you think there's a chance as they're
getting
very, very sick and their lungs are filling up with fluid that we could try
high dose IV
steroids like we do in other infections?
He said, oh, no, no, we've tried that.
Turns out, and we mentioned this in the book, the best treatment when you were
just about
to go on the ventilator or on the ventilator, when you have a 50% chance of
dying at that
point was IV steroids, an old generic medicine that big pharma doesn't make
much money
off of.
Which steroids in particular were they using?
It's called solumedrol, but it's just IV steroids.
And it was a 36% reduction in death, which is pretty significant when you're in
the ICU.
The people in the ICU were very, very sick.
It was a third of them had a reduction in death by taking IV steroids, but he
was dismissing
it from the very beginning and already acting like, oh, I know it's not going
to work.
And we're going to try remdesivir, which turned out not to work very well.
Well, not only that, it gives people kidney failure.
Well, I mean, he has a history of using medicine that has already been through
the approval rating
with, you know, what they did with AZT during the pandemic of AIDS.
Right.
And that proved to be horrific, a terrible disaster.
It's just amazing that the same guy ran the same playbook, you know?
Yeah.
No, it was really sad.
And the other thing about natural immunity that needed to be brought up is so
all the people
that were declared essential kept working.
Like if you worked in a meat processing pack, these are hardworking people.
Many of them, you know, they're busting their butt all day long.
And there'd be like 296 people at a meat packing place in Missouri.
All of them got COVID.
Most of them survived.
But what we should have been telling them is two weeks after you got it, come
back to work.
You don't have to wear a mask now.
You've had it.
You have immunity.
You won't spread it to your family.
And guess what?
All the unknown about whether you're going to die or not, you survived and you're
done.
But instead, we told people you might get it again and you still might die.
And you got to wear a mask all day long when in reality, we should have been
celebrating
the people who recovered and letting them have their freedom back.
Well, there was also this kooky thing where after you got over the disease,
they wanted you to get vaccinated, which was strange.
It was almost like they wanted you to join the team, like take the blood oath.
Yeah, I met a man in Orange County and his mom was like 83 and she was very
sick.
And she ultimately died during during from COVID probably.
But she went to the hospital with COVID.
They wouldn't admit her until she was vaccinated for COVID while she had COVID,
which is actually against all recommendations.
And this is the problem with the mass vaccination thing.
If you're going to Walgreens, do you think they ask you
if you've had COVID recently before they gave you a shot?
And so really the best medical recommendation for a young person is when you
don't need the COVID vaccine,
but you certainly shouldn't be taking it close to when you've had an infection
because you've got an
immune response that's going against the disease.
Then you add in another stimulant to it that's actually related to an increase
in the rate of the
heart inflammation that comes along with vaccinating some of the young people.
Well, there's also the weirdness of what happened during the Reagan
administration with vaccines,
where they're no longer liable for any vaccine injuries.
And when you call this a vaccine, it's very different than any vaccine that had
ever been used before.
But yet you have all of these injuries that people have no recourse.
Yeah. My dad was in Congress at the time and voted against, you know, giving
them the liability protection.
And he also was there when they had the swine flu epidemic.
And in that, more people died from the swine flu vaccine.
And I think there were no deaths from swine flu.
I said, oh, it's going to take over the world.
And, you know, we're going to lose, you know, 5% of our public.
Nobody died.
The epidemic quickly stopped, but then several people got Guillain-Barre and a
few people died
from the vaccine.
And I'm not against vaccines.
Look, there are many miracles to vaccines, but they should be used judiciously
and the
risks and benefit for each individual.
And it turns out COVID had an age differential that was more significant
probably than any disease
we've ever seen.
It really was an old person's disease.
Yeah.
An old person and people with comorbidities.
Exactly.
It was really bad for obese people.
But, you know, the disease aside, what was it like for you to watch this play
being run?
Because that's essentially what it was.
It was like there was a play being run.
And you had to follow whatever their narrative was to the T or you'd be
attacked.
I mean, and you would see these people that were acting like soldiers for the
pharmaceutical drug
complex.
I mean, they would go out there and just brutally attack anybody who deviated
from the narrative,
say the most awful things, talk about how there's blood on your hands.
And like it was very strange.
Well, the belief in the vaccines and the belief that you should do it was like
a religious belief,
and that's the way they treated it.
So if you didn't believe in it, you were someone to be demonized as a non-believer.
You we