Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2443 - Filippo Biondi
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Joe Rogan Experience #2443 - Filippo Biondi

Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
How are you, sir?
Fine, thank you.
Thank you very much for being here.
I'm really excited to talk to you.
Obviously, there's been an amazing amount of interest and controversy because
of your work.
We should explain to everybody right off the bat what this is about.
You are the man that was at the head of this research that is looking at
structures that
are underneath the bottom of the pyramid.
Incredibly controversial, very fascinating, and if it's accurate, it
essentially rewrites
all of human history.
Yes.
Thank you for this invitation.
Yes, the group is composed by Corrado Malanga, which is the head of the group.
Dean, professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa.
Can you explain your background, please, so people don't understand?
Yes.
Yes, my background is this.
I am a telecommunication engineering.
I graduate at the university.
What is that word again?
Say it again.
Telecommunication engineering.
Telecommunications engineering.
Okay.
It's like your English is excellent, but the Italian accent, although fabulous,
sometimes it's
difficult to translate.
Thank you very much, Joe.
I'm sorry, yes, that I'm not mother tongue of English.
It's still much better than my Italian.
Okay.
Thank you.
Yes.
I graduated myself in university at the University of Lecce, south of Italy.
Very nice university, and it has the name of a famous mathematic Italian, which
is Ennio de Giorgi.
Ennio de Giorgi was living in the era then John Nash was living also.
And they were one against the other, and they were both studying the 19 Hilbert
problem, and
Ennio de Giorgi solved this problem one week before John Nash.
Ah, interesting.
John Nash from the famous movie, A Brilliant Mind, with Russell Crowe.
Yes.
Yeah.
And so then I performed my PhD at La Sapienza in Rome, and now I'm here.
And how did you get involved in this discovery?
Yes.
I worked on radar and the synthetic battery radar for a lot of time.
For the Italian military, right?
Yes.
Some work.
Yes.
Which you can't really talk about.
No.
Right.
I was involved in some research where, together with the Italian Research
Council of Bari, always
south of Italy, we was testing some special processing that were able to
perform something special.
And so, this is.
So, this top secret research that you work on for the Italian government led
you to try this
stuff out, try this technology out.
And this is satellite-based technology, correct?
Yes.
And it's a radio tomography?
Yes.
It is something, in my personal opinion, very simple.
The radar is installed on board on the satellite.
The satellite flies in the space at a distance of 600 kilometers at 7
kilometers per second in
velocity.
So, while it flies along the orbit, it is able to catch snapshots of the Earth.
The snapshots has to be focused.
And this focusing procedure, let's say it in the azimuth, I take it easy, in
the azimuth
direction, is done by sound, by the processing of sound, because it is involved
at the so-called
Doppler frequency.
You know, Joe, when you hear noises that are approaching to you, this noise
will rise the
frequency, because the target has a velocity, a positive velocity with respect
to you.
And so the frequency is rising up.
And this procedure allow us to estimate or to grab, let's say, the vibration
information that
is always present at the surface of the Earth, in terms of evanescent waves
that are present
on the surface of the Earth.
So, this vibration, which is mechanical vibration, carries inside of this the
information that
is located underground.
And so we did this.
And was it a specific idea, was it the idea specifically to look under the
pyramids, or was it something
that was discovered accidentally?
Ok, yes.
Ok.
Yes.
Once we discovered, we discovered this, this method, it was a coincidence that
I knew Corrado
Malanga.
And at that time, I speak, I am, we are in 2018.
He was studying the pyramids.
And so we were talking about something that if, if there was some methods able
to scan inside
the pyramids, because he needed some information to, to, to conclude the
research that he was
doing.
And so I proposed him to use my technique.
And we started to work together.
And so we focused in that time on the pyramids.
And when was this, when was the first scans?
Yes.
In 2019.
In 2019.
Yeah.
And when you got the data back, did you immediately get the data that you're
showing today, where
you see the columns with the coils around it?
Ok.
In, let's say that this research is, can be divided by two.
The first one, 1.0.
we were concentrating research on the Khnum Khufu pyramid, the Keops pyramid.
To watch inside the pyramid.
And so we have, uh, detailed, tailored our processing to watch only inside the
pyramids.
Because that pyramid, only one pyramid.
Because we were doing that kind of research.
Then, once we discovered things in 2020, we published a peer review paper.
And, uh, we gave, uh, public the results that we found in inside the Khnum Khufu
pyramid.
We decided to expand our, um, research in all the Giza Plateau.
Can I stop you there?
The, when you looked into, so we know quite a bit about the Khufu pyramid and
what the
chambers are inside of it.
Did this technology accurately describe the pyramid itself and the insides of
it, the chambers
that we know exist?
Absolutely.
Yes.
Because we have detected this, uh, multi-layer structure that is inside the Khnum
Khufu pyramid,
the so-called Zed, we have discovered it, uh, uh, very well from the space and
it is located
inside the pyramid.
And also we discovered it in the new, we, no, we discovered it, we, we, um, uh,
we gave
an image also of the other known structures like the grand, the grand gallery.
The grand gallery.
The grand gallery.
And then also the queen's chamber and the king's chamber also.
So.
And accurate in terms of size and dimension.
And also position and location.
Okay.
So when did you decide to focus below the pyramid?
Yes.
Uh, we decided to focus below the pyramid, uh, because we, uh, we were, uh, our
intention
was to expand our, um, research.
And then also thanks to the third component of the research group, which is Armando
May.
Uh, he suggests us to expand our research and scan all the Gisa plateau.
Okay.
And so what, what date was it that you discovered these immense columns with
the coils around it
and all those structures that are underneath the pyramid?
Yes.
In the second part of, of our research, we, uh, started focusing our scans on
the Khafer pyramid
and, uh, like K'num Kufu.
And then we adjust our algorithms to go deeper.
And so when we did this, uh, very nice things, uh, uh, began to, to appear on
our results.
What, what did you feel when you first saw those images that do appear to be
immense columns?
Uh, I believe they're, uh, the diameter is 20 meters, 20 minutes.
So they're huge, enormous columns.
Yes.
What, what, what went through your mind?
Skepticism.
Skepticism.
Skepticism.
I told for, uh, also Corrado, uh, was with me because, uh, we had those results
for, uh,
in our, uh, desk, uh, without, uh, disclosure or anything for six months
because my, my opinion
was that was not real, um, I, uh, I did, I was thinking that, uh, maybe it was
noise or
some artifacts due, due by our, uh, processing procedures.
Did give you pause at all that they were so uniform that these columns were in
very specific
places and that the, they lined up, there was a uniform gap in between them?
Yes.
And, uh, uh, why we disclosure this?
Because we started to use also other satellites.
And, uh, once we, uh, at the beginning, we were using only the Italian, uh,
satellite system
that is, it is Cosmos SkyMed and Cosmos SkyMed second generation.
It's very good, very precise, but, uh, we wanted to shift our research using
also other satellites
because, uh, Joe, in research, uh, when we have diversity, diversity is a good
thing
because, uh, it confirms other things that, uh, we, uh, were, uh, searching, we
were searching
confirmation, confirmation.
So, once we had the same results, uh, while we were, uh, we was using, uh,
American satellites,
uh, called the Capella space and also, and also other satellites having always
the same results,
as we decided to disclosure.
How many different scans have been done on this area?
Two or 300, two, more than 200.
More than 200 and all with uniform results?
Yes.
Wow.
Yes.
There's a lot of resistance to this and it's from the usual characters and it's
from people
that I would characterize as gatekeepers of archeological information.
And, um, unfortunately they are not willing to approach this with an open mind.
And you see this skepticism that just seems to me to be confirmation bias.
They, they want this to not be true regardless of the sheer number of scans and
the uniformity
of the results of these scans.
And also the fact that this stuff has been proven to work on other things like,
didn't
you guys use this exact technology to get the exact dimensions of a particle
collider that
you have?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
We have a particle collider where I have born in L'Aquila, which is located in
the center
of Italy.
There is a huge mountain called Grand Sasso, the Grand Sasso d'Italia, which is,
uh, has a maximum
altitude of about, uh, 3,000 meters for being precise to nine, nine, three
meters.
And so, uh, um, that there is, uh, a tunnel, very, very long tunnel about, uh,
11, 12 kilometers.
And in the core of this mountain, there is a particle collider, there is a
laboratory, let's
say like that.
And this technology got the exact dimensions of this particle collider that's
deep in this
mountain.
Yes.
Okay.
At, uh, 1.4 kilometers with respect to the top.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we know it's accurate.
We know it works.
What do you think it is?
I mean, other than what I said that it's gatekeepers of archeological
information, it's people that
don't want to admit that there's perhaps a, um, a quite a bit bigger mystery
than just the
pyramids themselves.
What, what is, what do you think it is that is causing this resistance?
Uh, personally, it's true.
We found a lot of resistance.
Yes.
It's true.
But personally, I don't know why.
Uh, I can say something, uh, regarding to my personal opinion.
Uh, Joe, it is something that maybe is too big.
It's too big, too, too huge, too, to be disclosure like that today.
I don't know why.
It's confusing to people because it's, it's essentially paradigm shattering
because the
pyramids themselves are absolutely spectacular.
The great pyramid is 2 million, 300,000 stones.
Yeah.
The, the, the alignment is to perfect true now, true north, south, east and
west.
It's a really incredible accomplishment, whoever built it and when they built
it.
It's just, undeniably fascinating that this was done at the, the very least 2,500
BC, probably
even older than that.
Yeah.
We really don't know.
But that alone is spectacular.
But then when you add the findings that you have, it just makes everybody go,
we don't know
anything.
We really don't.
We, we know that these things exist, but their purpose has always been
speculative.
The speculation was that it is some sort of a tomb, but that doesn't make any
sense because
there's, there's no hieroglyphs inside of it.
It doesn't seem like a tomb.
It doesn't look like a tomb.
And I'm sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's work.
Yes.
Yes.
Which, you know, he's an engineer and he said, it appears that this thing is
some sort of a
mechanical thing and that it's probably designed to generate some kind of power.
Yeah.
Uh, yes.
In this, uh, in this context, uh, I have spoke a lot with Christopher Dunn and,
uh,
in, in, uh, um, I like a lot his theory and, uh, it, it makes sense.
And, um, and so this discoveries matches a lot with his, uh, with his and also
to other scientists
that makes, make, recast the, uh, effective purpose of the pyramid, not to, to
be tombs.
So today we are sure.
We are sure of, of one thing that the pyramids are not tom