Name: Joe Rogan Experience #2449 - Raul Bilecky
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Joe Rogan Experience #2449 - Raul Bilecky

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Raul, Joe, very nice to meet you, brother.
It's so good to meet you.
I have enjoyed your content tremendously online.
And I really got into a video this morning that I was watching
where you found this megalithic site that was undocumented in Peru.
It's incredible that they still have these ancient sites
that for whatever reason, it seems like the money that they get
gets stolen, like the money that is supposed to be allocated
towards documenting these things and registering these things.
People just say, fuck it, I'm going to pocket it.
It happens a lot more than you think.
It's just hard to believe, man.
Some of the stuff that you document is very heartbreaking.
Like one of them was when you flew a drone over these ancient ruins
and you showed the amount of places that have been looted.
Oh, yeah.
And it's just all of it.
It's just pop.
You see these holes.
And when I first saw that, I'm like, what is he showing me?
And then you're like, these are all spots where someone has dug in
and looted, and most of it has been done in this area of Peru
over the last 20 years.
Over the last 20 years.
So from 2006 to 2026, more.
I would have, the biggest amount of looting happened,
it's actually died down some, but the end of the 20,
so 1980s to 2010s, I would say.
That's when it really took off.
And you can tell from the trash that's left there,
like cigarettes that were only produced in the 80s,
soda bottles that were only produced in the 90s.
How nice of them to steal the artifacts and leave trash.
Dude, it, they've become landfills of human remains.
It's, this place you're talking about is, I mean,
it's eight full kilometers of just, it looks like the moon.
Every single location has been looted.
And I was like, I got to go up there and see what this looks like.
And so.
Pull up to the microphone a little bit more.
So looting, what are they, at that point in time,
I mean, these are hundreds, thousands of years old, these sites.
So what are they finding?
Well, a lot of the mummies that I've,
because I've found mummies that have been torn, torn apart,
literally like they're, the cotton that they're wrapped in,
the textiles that they're wrapped in.
I mean, it's just, they've been scavenged.
Are they looking for jewels?
Or for some sort of metallurgy, like on the person themselves.
The unfortunate thing is, I mean, all you'll see is,
you'll just see these, these bones littered across the landscape
with broken pieces of pottery.
And that was also disturbing, how much bones you see everywhere.
So this is, you see a bone right there.
These are all human bones that you just find scattered.
That's all cotton.
And what we're about to see here is an actual mummy that's been torn apart.
It's just, it's so sad that there's no protection.
Nobody's going out there, man.
Nobody.
Except for the looters.
But I know very little about Peru other than, you know,
obviously the Nazca Lines, the mummies, all these different things,
the mystery of the place.
Can you be showing that, please?
The video's over.
Oh, it's over?
But there's a, there's a couple burial, burial drone shots.
But it's just.
You go to the top.
How big is Peru?
I don't even know geographically how large it is.
I mean, Peru, Peru is huge.
I mean, it takes up.
This is another, this is a different looted site.
So this is all, this, all of this is in the Paracas, Nazca, Ica region.
And these skulls are just sitting there?
So the looters will oftentimes leave, I don't know, set them up in this fashion.
There isn't a site I've gone to where I haven't seen something like,
set up like this in the end.
But, so, I pull out to show the scale of it.
I mean, every little piece of white you see is, is some part of a human.
Wow.
It's tragic, man.
Just so much history lost.
And so, does this stuff wind up in private collections?
Is, do museums ever get it?
Like, what, what happens to that stuff?
I don't think museums get it at all.
It's private, private buyers.
I actually met a, the term is guacero.
It's a grave robber.
I actually met one in Miraflores in Lima proper at one of the artesanalists
where they're selling,
you know, ancient goods.
Well, some of them have real things that they, they go out and they loot.
And, I mean, that, this is one of the things I've been thinking about, like,
for, for the future.
Like, what, what can be done about this?
Because the government, nobody from the government's going out there.
And so, these things end up in private collections, textiles, humans, pottery,
things that you would see in museums.
It's just nobody from that official administration is taking the trip to go out
there and preserve these things.
It seems like just the ancient civilization of Peru is a massive mystery.
It seems like there are a lot of uncovered stories in that area.
Peru is a hot spot.
And it doesn't seem like there's an incredible amount of research being done
other than by independent people.
They, I mean, so, Joe, there's just so much in Peru.
I mean, you throw a stone and you're finding an ancient archaeological site.
I mean, they're doing, whenever they do construction, they end up coming across
structures or bones.
I mean, this last expedition, I went all over the country and there is no lack
of archaeological sites.
So, the money and, I just, the money it would take to fund research on all
these places is just extreme.
It's extreme.
I think there's a lot of history that goes missed because of what's currently
happening.
But a lot of times, a lot of the research is focused on what's going to bring
tourism.
Right.
Like Machu Picchu and things along those lines, which is also insane.
Phenomenal.
It's just incredible.
Like that place is like, what, why, how, why'd you build it up here?
Fucking nuts.
A good friend of mine just actually went, just recently took his family up to
Machu Picchu.
And he's like, it doesn't even make any sense, man.
Dude, Machu Picchu is what started, my family's from Peru and so I would grow
up going there.
And I have this old, back when you were filming with cameras with like a videotape,
there's footage of me finding seashells at Machu Picchu.
What?
When I was like 10 years old.
Back then, you could go wherever you wanted.
You didn't have to stay on a path.
And so, I don't know.
And for people that don't know, Machu Picchu is like, what, 12,000 feet above
sea level?
And so, I'm a kid, I mean, I still have the grainy footage and I'm showing my
dad on the camera.
I'm like, dad, dad, look, I found seashells.
You know, I saw them inside of, they were like glinting in the mud in the wall.
And so, I took them out.
And that's what started this whole process for me.
I was just like, it blew my mind that there were seashells way up there.
And so, I studied about earth cataclysms and ancient history and when sea
levels were different.
And that just, that is a moment that started kind of this whole path for me.
How old were you at the time?
10 or 12.
Wow.
Wow.
So, how many times have you been there since?
Well, growing up, we used to go every year and a half or so.
And that's continued into my adulthood.
It's only been recently, the past two years, that I've been doing what I've
been doing, which is like hardcore solo expeditions.
And so, when you look at a site like Machu Picchu or, you know, any of these
ancient sites, what is the timeline that conventional archaeologists attribute?
I mean, they attribute it to the Inca, which, you know, 14, late 1400s, early
1500s, I think the Inca were conquered by the Spanish in 1530, I think.
And so, most of that megalithic architecture they attribute to the Inca.
However, there's evidence that there's a site, Jamie, if you could pull it up,
it's called Vinyake.
This place is, there's megalithic architecture with precision that goes down 50
feet under this mountain.
It's, check this out.
Whoa.
It's buried so deeply underneath.
This is crazy.
So, I believe they filled in the top to, in modern times, but they...
There's mortar at the top.
And very soon there's going to be a guy who shows us a map.
That's incredible.
Wow.
And so, you see very different construction styles.
Very different construction.
From the bottom to the top.
But that's how it always is, right?
The most complex stuff.
So, that's showing that this architecture here, it goes down 50 feet into this
mountain.
And what do they think this was?
So, this complex is all attributed to the Wari.
It's attributed to the culture that came right before the Inca, which doesn't
make much sense to me because what you see on the surface, that's Wari
construction.
Which is small stones.
Right.
And...
What are they held together with?
Mud mortar.
Mud as mortar.
And...
But then...
So, this site has only been 4% excavated.
4%.
It's...
Underneath all of it is that type of architecture, which is crazy.
So, you have mud and mortar with very small stones.
And then underneath it, you have precision-cut megalithic stones.
Yeah.
And how big are these stones and where are they supposedly coming from?
That...
So, here's a funny story.
So, this place...
If you look...
You can find it on Google Maps.
It's...
You know, they call it the...
El Complejo de Wari.
So, the Wari complex.
But if you go back to the Spanish Chronicles...
Pedro Seiza de Leon, when he was in Tiwanaku...
So, Tiwanaku, where Pumapunku is in Bolivia...
When they ask the natives, you know, who built this...
They say, we don't know.
It was built before us from the people from the lake.
The same people who built Vinyake.
That's what the natives said.
That place, Vinyake, is 800, 1,000 kilometers from Tiwanaku.
So, and it's the same construction.
So, it makes sense kind of what they're saying.
The people who built Tiwanaku also built this place.
But before they knew that...
They didn't witness it.
It was just there when they got there, is what the locals said.
Well, that's a lot of stuff, right?
That's part of the weirdness of South America.
Yeah.
And, you know, even Mexico, right?
Yeah.
That's the weirdness of the Aztec structures.
I didn't know that until pretty recently.
That the Aztecs labeled, like, Tenochtitlan, the place where the gods were born.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
They don't attribute that to themselves.
To themselves.
They found it.
When they cleared the area.
I mean, you think about it, I've...
Still to this day, you know, I was up in Lake Titicaca.
And, I mean, there's structures all over the place.
But you're like, where were these people living?
And because there's no remnants of cities or towns.
And the reason is, is because in modern times, people have recommissioned the
blocks and started
and used them for their farms and their homes and things like that.
You have a good location, a place of reverence, a place you're going to build...the
next culture is going to build on it.
You know?
And I think that's happened a lot in a lot of places.
Yeah.
Well, everywhere, right?
I mean, that's Lebanon, too.
That's Baalbek.
It seems to be the case that those immense stones where the Romans built on top
of them.
But there's...the Roman documentation is pretty precise.
They documented everything.
They never talked about these enormous thousand ton stones that are seven
meters up in the air.
Now, we're just going to put them in the base of our structure.
Yeah, like, what?
They didn't even talk about them.
They talked about these beautiful structures that are on top of that are
clearly Roman.
But the stuff underneath it just defies logic.
And some of the stones that were never moved and put into place, that were cut
and quarried, but just never moved.
1,600 tons?
Like, how?
And things you can't replicate, you know, nowadays.
It's...
That's what's crazy.
Like, with modern machinery, we can't do it.
I mean, it's...
I've always...
When I started this path, you know, I was...
You know, Fingerprints of the Gods was one of the first books I picked u